Author Topic: Storm Equipment (Read 12129 times)

DrBwlr15 · « **on:** December 24, 2017, 03:22:45 PM »

Why is Storm so popular? What makes them so special? I see so many bowlers in my area throwing Storm but I also hear so many people talk about how they wont throw Storm ever again, its weird... I have a 50% success rate with Storm. Half the balls have been duds. I just don't get it

Pinbuster · « **Reply #31 on:** December 31, 2017, 08:46:13 PM »

The Marvel Pearl was a great piece and I would have bought another one but I guess our distributor has already sold out their supply.

Storm didn't get to the top by releasing a lot of duds.

Depending on your game and condition you bowl on many balls can match up well. I have had good luck with storm in the past. In the last 4 or 5 years I've had pretty good luck with rotogrip.

HackJandy · « **Reply #32 on:** December 31, 2017, 09:52:36 PM »

Quote from: Pinbuster on December 31, 2017, 08:46:13 PM

The Marvel Pearl was a great piece and I would have bought another one but I guess our distributor has already sold out their supply.

Storm didn't get to the top by releasing a lot of duds.

Depending on your game and condition you bowl on may balls can match up well. I have had good luck with storm in the past. In the last 4 or 5 years I've had pretty good luck with rotogrip.

Honestly my personal opinion is Storm has plenty of duds (relatively speaking) but they also put more balls in the greatest ever list than just about any other maker (especially last 5 to 10 years). Their stuff is too pricey imo (they rarely discount) to just buy and hope for the best but doesn't take much research to realize you absolutely need some of their legendary pieces in your arsenal. MP is one of those if you match up well with pearls which I usually do not outside some specific conditions.

Luke Rosdahl · « **Reply #33 on:** December 31, 2017, 11:14:59 PM »

Too pricey? Their stuff costs pretty well exactly the same as what comparable balls from other companies costs . . ? And do you mean the websites or pro shops rarely discount Storm stuff?

Quote from: HackJandy on December 31, 2017, 09:52:36 PM

Quote from: Pinbuster on December 31, 2017, 08:46:13 PM
The Marvel Pearl was a great piece and I would have bought another one but I guess our distributor has already sold out their supply.

Storm didn't get to the top by releasing a lot of duds.

Depending on your game and condition you bowl on may balls can match up well. I have had good luck with storm in the past. In the last 4 or 5 years I've had pretty good luck with rotogrip.

Honestly my personal opinion is Storm has plenty of duds (relatively speaking) but they also put more balls in the greatest ever list than just about any other maker (especially last 5 to 10 years). Their stuff is too pricey imo (they rarely discount) to just buy and hope for the best but doesn't take much research to realize you absolutely need some of their legendary pieces in your arsenal. MP is one of those if you match up well with pearls which I usually do not outside some specific conditions.

HackJandy · « **Reply #34 on:** December 31, 2017, 11:48:46 PM »

Quote from: Luke Rosdahl on December 31, 2017, 11:14:59 PM

Too pricey? Their stuff costs pretty well exactly the same as what comparable balls from other companies costs . . ? And do you mean the websites or pro shops rarely discount Storm stuff?

Quote from: HackJandy on December 31, 2017, 09:52:36 PM
Quote from: Pinbuster on December 31, 2017, 08:46:13 PM
The Marvel Pearl was a great piece and I would have bought another one but I guess our distributor has already sold out their supply.

Storm didn't get to the top by releasing a lot of duds.

Depending on your game and condition you bowl on may balls can match up well. I have had good luck with storm in the past. In the last 4 or 5 years I've had pretty good luck with rotogrip.

Honestly my personal opinion is Storm has plenty of duds (relatively speaking) but they also put more balls in the greatest ever list than just about any other maker (especially last 5 to 10 years). Their stuff is too pricey imo (they rarely discount) to just buy and hope for the best but doesn't take much research to realize you absolutely need some of their legendary pieces in your arsenal. MP is one of those if you match up well with pearls which I usually do not outside some specific conditions.

They have good price discipline and stick to their price points fairly well. Some of their prices are excellent like on the Thunder line and say the Hustle Ink on the Roto side. But some can seem a bit high for a ball being on the market for years (their stuff doesn't tend to naturally discount over time much is what I meant). That said hey if they can get it who cares about a whiner on an internet forum. They keep their factories busy which is basically saying scoreboard.

2handedrook12 · « **Reply #35 on:** January 01, 2018, 01:35:39 AM »

Quote from: HackJandy on December 31, 2017, 09:52:36 PM

Quote from: Pinbuster on December 31, 2017, 08:46:13 PM
The Marvel Pearl was a great piece and I would have bought another one but I guess our distributor has already sold out their supply.

Storm didn't get to the top by releasing a lot of duds.

Depending on your game and condition you bowl on may balls can match up well. I have had good luck with storm in the past. In the last 4 or 5 years I've had pretty good luck with rotogrip.

Honestly my personal opinion is Storm has plenty of duds (relatively speaking) but they also put more balls in the greatest ever list than just about any other maker (especially last 5 to 10 years). Their stuff is too pricey imo (they rarely discount) to just buy and hope for the best but doesn't take much research to realize you absolutely need some of their legendary pieces in your arsenal. MP is one of those if you match up well with pearls which I usually do not outside some specific conditions.

Regarding the Marvel Pearl, I don't think it matches up to people that generally like pearls. It's a lot smoother than most pearls and that can make people not like it when they expect a ton of backend that most people expect.

Steven · « **Reply #36 on:** January 01, 2018, 09:30:31 AM »

Quote from: 2handedrook12 on January 01, 2018, 01:35:39 AM

Regarding the Marvel Pearl, I don't think it matches up to people that generally like pearls. It's a lot smoother than most pearls and that can make people not like it when they expect a ton of backend that most people expect.

Interesting observation. I kind of expected what you described, especially since I still have the Marvel-S which defines rolly. I brought this up to my PSO before agreeing to buy the MP, and he said to trust him -- the pearl is a different animal. It is smoother than many pearls, but it has plenty of backend. I like that it doesn't make an uncontrollable hockey turn. I think it will match up well to many sport patterns.

Metal_rules · « **Reply #37 on:** January 01, 2018, 09:47:13 AM »

The ball that I totally trust and believe in without question, is the INTENSE. Since I bought this ball I just can't put it down. I did have to get used to how to roll this ball. But since I have I just seem to be rolling better and better with it. It just helped me win a local tournament. When I got the Code Red, I thought that ball was great, and it is, but the Intense is something special.

giddyupddp · « **Reply #38 on:** January 01, 2018, 11:03:33 AM »

Agree that Storm/Roto is by far the best at marketing but they also have produced great equipment to go along with the marketing.

As far as pricing I don't see them being out of line with the other companies who also put out some great equipment too. The only difference I see with Storm/Roto is that they rarely have discounted equipment as they rarely over produce a ball. But right now at least in my PSO's shop the Street Fight is discounted and from the guys who have bought it they have been pleased. Also the Ink is a steal from Roto.

I dabble with all brands but only buy new and pay full price on Storm, Roto, and Motiv. I do enjoy buying some used or discontinued trying other brands but haven't been impressed with others but haven't tried my Ridiculous Pearl yet.

HackJandy · « **Reply #39 on:** January 01, 2018, 11:25:23 AM »

Quote from: giddyupddp on January 01, 2018, 11:03:33 AM

Agree that Storm/Roto is by far the best at marketing but they also have produced great equipment to go along with the marketing.

As far as pricing I don't see them being out of line with the other companies who also put out some great equipment too. The only difference I see with Storm/Roto is that they rarely have discounted equipment as they rarely over produce a ball. But right now at least in my PSO's shop the Street Fight is discounted and from the guys who have bought it they have been pleased. Also the Ink is a steal from Roto.

I dabble with all brands but only buy new and pay full price on Storm, Roto, and Motiv. I do enjoy buying some used or discontinued trying other brands but haven't been impressed with others but haven't tried my Ridiculous Pearl yet.

Pretty much concur and Storm is fairly reasonable and does put out some good stuff. To be perfectly honest Radical balls like most Mo Pinel balls can be very hit or miss from bowler to bowler and ball to ball and I would certain say Storm was the safer bet if Radical didn't often discount balls (that made in Mexico gives them options). The Hustle Ink is a steal but for about the same price on sale I got a much stronger Radical The Fix which for most people's style and conditions is not a better ball but it is for me and the conditions I see. Radical tends to put out balls that benefit my style which is why I like them (not willing to die on a hill for them and have plenty of other pieces from about everyone including Storm). For majority of bowlers its easy to see why Storm/Roto and Motiv too is way to go. They do match up better with the majority for sure and do make some kickass balls.

(edit: saw that Street Fight and the Rocket Ship as well on sale, this year not going to buy any balls until Black Friday now arsenal fairly full).

Steven · « **Reply #40 on:** January 01, 2018, 01:33:39 PM »

Quote from: HackJandy on January 01, 2018, 11:25:23 AM

Pretty much concur and Storm is fairly reasonable and does put out some good stuff. To be perfectly honest Radical balls like most Mo Pinel balls can be very hit or miss from bowler to bowler and ball to ball and I would certain say Storm was the safer bet if Radical didn't often discount balls (that made in Mexico gives them options). The Hustle Ink is a steal but for about the same price on sale I got a much stronger Radical The Fix which for most people's style and conditions is not a better ball but it is for me and the conditions I see. Radical tends to put out balls that benefit my style which is why I like them (not willing to die on a hill for them and have plenty of other pieces from about everyone including Storm). For majority of bowlers its easy to see why Storm/Roto and Motiv too is way to go. They do match up better with the majority for sure and do make some kickass balls.

(edit: saw that Street Fight and the Rocket Ship as well on sale, this year not going to buy any balls until Black Friday now arsenal fairly full).

I understand your desire to be agreeable, but I'd caution against going overboard with your pronouncement that I bolded. All major manufacturers are making really good equipment now. There isn't anything that proves in any sense that "Storm/Roto and Motiv is the way to go" for the majority of bowlers. EBI in particular is making some incredible stuff now. There are simply many ways to go in putting together a good arsenal.

LookingForALeftyWall · « **Reply #41 on:** January 01, 2018, 02:36:09 PM »

Quote from: Steven on January 01, 2018, 01:33:39 PM

There are simply many ways to go in putting together a good arsenal.

Absolutely. +1

While I am a fan of Storm/Roto, I like a lot of Track stuff too. Currently there is not a single company that has a monopoly of making the best stuff out. Until there is, I will mix and match with stuff that I feel matches up.

HackJandy · « **Reply #42 on:** January 01, 2018, 03:36:36 PM »

Quote from: Steven on January 01, 2018, 01:33:39 PM

Quote from: HackJandy on January 01, 2018, 11:25:23 AM

Pretty much concur and Storm is fairly reasonable and does put out some good stuff. To be perfectly honest Radical balls like most Mo Pinel balls can be very hit or miss from bowler to bowler and ball to ball and I would certain say Storm was the safer bet if Radical didn't often discount balls (that made in Mexico gives them options). The Hustle Ink is a steal but for about the same price on sale I got a much stronger Radical The Fix which for most people's style and conditions is not a better ball but it is for me and the conditions I see. Radical tends to put out balls that benefit my style which is why I like them (not willing to die on a hill for them and have plenty of other pieces from about everyone including Storm). For majority of bowlers its easy to see why Storm/Roto and Motiv too is way to go. They do match up better with the majority for sure and do make some kickass balls.

(edit: saw that Street Fight and the Rocket Ship as well on sale, this year not going to buy any balls until Black Friday now arsenal fairly full).

I understand your desire to be agreeable, but I'd caution against going overboard with your pronouncement that I bolded. All major manufacturers are making really good equipment now. There isn't anything that proves in any sense that "Storm/Roto and Motiv is the way to go" for the majority of bowlers. EBI in particular is making some incredible stuff now. There are simply many ways to go in putting together a good arsenal.

EBI does have some good stuff as well. Haven't throw Track in years but remember liking their stuff. Wish I would have gotten one of the game breaker family (or at least a ball with a GB coverstock) instead of my Scandal Pearl but its not a bad ball just a little bit of meh on house shot with my style (when it matches up though look out). Am glad to have a Blue and Burgundy Hammer remake in the arsenal and those balls were very reasonably priced but both are bit situational. Still agree all the ball makers have good stuff and even fond of Pyramid on the low end these days as well.

Luke Rosdahl · « **Reply #43 on:** January 02, 2018, 08:18:36 AM »

Really has nothing to do with the company, just more to do with customer demand. Retailers aren't going to discount something that people are still paying full price for . . and because stuff is selling, they don't need to discount it to retailers to get it out of their warehouse. They also don't wait so long to discontinue something. As soon as it starts trending down or getting stale, it's gone so they don't have 1000 balls laying around that no one wants to buy anymore . . just smart business practices.

Quote from: HackJandy on December 31, 2017, 11:48:46 PM

Quote from: Luke Rosdahl on December 31, 2017, 11:14:59 PM
Too pricey? Their stuff costs pretty well exactly the same as what comparable balls from other companies costs . . ? And do you mean the websites or pro shops rarely discount Storm stuff?

Quote from: HackJandy on December 31, 2017, 09:52:36 PM
Quote from: Pinbuster on December 31, 2017, 08:46:13 PM
The Marvel Pearl was a great piece and I would have bought another one but I guess our distributor has already sold out their supply.

Storm didn't get to the top by releasing a lot of duds.

Depending on your game and condition you bowl on may balls can match up well. I have had good luck with storm in the past. In the last 4 or 5 years I've had pretty good luck with rotogrip.

Honestly my personal opinion is Storm has plenty of duds (relatively speaking) but they also put more balls in the greatest ever list than just about any other maker (especially last 5 to 10 years). Their stuff is too pricey imo (they rarely discount) to just buy and hope for the best but doesn't take much research to realize you absolutely need some of their legendary pieces in your arsenal. MP is one of those if you match up well with pearls which I usually do not outside some specific conditions.

They have good price discipline and stick to their price points fairly well. Some of their prices are excellent like on the Thunder line and say the Hustle Ink on the Roto side. But some can seem a bit high for a ball being on the market for years (their stuff doesn't tend to naturally discount over time much is what I meant). That said hey if they can get it who cares about a whiner on an internet forum. They keep their factories busy which is basically saying scoreboard.

AlonzoHarris · « **Reply #44 on:** January 02, 2018, 08:33:31 AM »

Quote from: Luke Rosdahl on January 02, 2018, 08:18:36 AM

Really has nothing to do with the company, just more to do with customer demand. Retailers aren't going to discount something that people are still paying full price for . . and because stuff is selling, they don't need to discount it to retailers to get it out of their warehouse. They also don't wait so long to discontinue something. As soon as it starts trending down or getting stale, it's gone so they don't have 1000 balls laying around that no one wants to buy anymore . . just smart business practices.

Quote from: HackJandy on December 31, 2017, 11:48:46 PM
Quote from: Luke Rosdahl on December 31, 2017, 11:14:59 PM
Too pricey? Their stuff costs pretty well exactly the same as what comparable balls from other companies costs . . ? And do you mean the websites or pro shops rarely discount Storm stuff?

Quote from: HackJandy on December 31, 2017, 09:52:36 PM
Quote from: Pinbuster on December 31, 2017, 08:46:13 PM
The Marvel Pearl was a great piece and I would have bought another one but I guess our distributor has already sold out their supply.

Storm didn't get to the top by releasing a lot of duds.

Depending on your game and condition you bowl on may balls can match up well. I have had good luck with storm in the past. In the last 4 or 5 years I've had pretty good luck with rotogrip.

Honestly my personal opinion is Storm has plenty of duds (relatively speaking) but they also put more balls in the greatest ever list than just about any other maker (especially last 5 to 10 years). Their stuff is too pricey imo (they rarely discount) to just buy and hope for the best but doesn't take much research to realize you absolutely need some of their legendary pieces in your arsenal. MP is one of those if you match up well with pearls which I usually do not outside some specific conditions.

They have good price discipline and stick to their price points fairly well. Some of their prices are excellent like on the Thunder line and say the Hustle Ink on the Roto side. But some can seem a bit high for a ball being on the market for years (their stuff doesn't tend to naturally discount over time much is what I meant). That said hey if they can get it who cares about a whiner on an internet forum. They keep their factories busy which is basically saying scoreboard.

I see the Phaze II possibly dipping into that category if bowlingball.com discounted price is an accurate indicator.

Bowl_Freak · « **Reply #45 on:** January 02, 2018, 08:49:27 AM »

Heard a rumor this weekend that the 900Global Truth Pearl is discontinued and along with 2 of the older Boost's.

Author Topic: Storm Equipment (Read 12129 times)

DrBwlr15

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Steven

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