Post by: MrNattyBoh on May 02, 2008, 02:45:21 PM
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Post by: Juggernaut on May 02, 2008, 10:49:19 PM
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What did you expect, something PROFOUND?
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Post by: themachine300 on May 02, 2008, 11:09:05 PM
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Post by: Jay on May 03, 2008, 01:34:46 AM
I believe the lowest rev rate on tour is 275 RPM, but I'm not sure; I read something about it recently. Now, I'm not saying revs are everything but they definitely help and I wish I was able to produce more. Versatility is what makes a great bowler, and Norm Duke is living proof.
Post by: Juggernaut on May 03, 2008, 12:26:58 PM
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If YOU could crank it up, you could change your name to Mr300
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Actually, if you read his profile it says he has a sanctioned 300 game.
Edited on 5/2/2008 10:49 PM
Maybe, but I was just funnin with him anyway, nothing personal about it.
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Good crankers like good straight players are equally adept at repeating shots with accuracy. The problem for them is that they are forced because of their high rev rates to cross a lot of boards, which in todays fast transition environment can be very difficult. Straighter players sacrifice carry on many conditions, but can keep in the pocket much more easily on longer flatter patterns
This is exactly why I have changed my release so much. I still get good revs, but my axis tilt and rotation allow me to play straighter and stay in one place longer, making smaller, less drastic adjustments.
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Post by: abrown on May 03, 2008, 12:30:48 PM
Post by: Brickguy221 on May 03, 2008, 12:52:02 PM
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Straighter players sacrifice carry on many conditions, but can keep in the pocket much more easily on longer flatter patterns
Straighter players win more also...ala Walter Ray Williams
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Post by: Strike300 on May 03, 2008, 04:22:08 PM
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Are you kidding? I'd like to believe it as much as anyone else since I am a stroker. But all the bowlers on tour are virtually crankers, in the sense that they can all turn on the ball when they want to.
I believe the lowest rev rate on tour is 275 RPM, but I'm not sure; I read something about it recently. Now, I'm not saying revs are everything but they definitely help and I wish I was able to produce more. Versatility is what makes a great bowler, and Norm Duke is living proof.
Not true. Having the ability to turn the ball doesn't make you a cranker.
Post by: Jay on May 03, 2008, 06:05:59 PM
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Are you kidding? I'd like to believe it as much as anyone else since I am a stroker. But all the bowlers on tour are virtually crankers, in the sense that they can all turn on the ball when they want to.
I believe the lowest rev rate on tour is 275 RPM, but I'm not sure; I read something about it recently. Now, I'm not saying revs are everything but they definitely help and I wish I was able to produce more. Versatility is what makes a great bowler, and Norm Duke is living proof.
Not true. Having the ability to turn the ball doesn't make you a cranker.
I see your point, but what I'm getting at is crankers have high rev rates and just about everyone on tour has a high rev rate. Some are higher than others obviously, but not everyone can do it.
Post by: n00dlejester on May 03, 2008, 06:26:47 PM
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Post by: zone on May 03, 2008, 08:25:04 PM
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Post by: Martin710 on May 04, 2008, 11:08:50 AM
Post by: Brickguy221 on May 04, 2008, 12:54:52 PM
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In the centers where I bowl, crankers have the highest averages on THS while on PBA patterns, the strokers have the advantage. One 21 year old cranker, who has been bowling for 16 years has a 243 average for the whole past season. It is really amazing to see him bowl.
Mushtare???
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Post by: Madiballz23 on May 05, 2008, 11:34:51 AM
Someone mentioned Walter Ray. He generally plays straighter, but I know I've seen him swinging the lane on rare occasion.
As far as your more amateur bowlers, neither style is the end all be all. It depends on the lane conditions, and the bowler themselves. Also depends on what you are using to compare who is better. Season long avg? High Series?
The Crankers get more carry on THS generally cause they have the extra power and high entry angle to create pin action. On the flip side, they have blow through a rack and leave some nasty spare shots.
Your strokers are generally more consistently leaving 9 counts, but don't get some of the high and light carry that the crankers do.
No one style is better overall. It's just a tool for each individual bowler to use.
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Post by: Grayson on May 05, 2008, 11:49:23 AM
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crankers aren't bowlers, they are humchuckers.......throw, turn the crap out of the ball, and pray. Straighter is greater!
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I differ....
I always try to keep my rev/speed in a good mix... straight is great on some lanes... and some hook is great, too...
I can not crank it I admit... but I can hook it
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Post by: Visionary 4626 on May 05, 2008, 11:57:48 AM
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Post by: OddBalls on May 05, 2008, 12:04:23 PM
We have several on our leagues. During the summer, they all got into the PBA pattern leagues and I kicked their butts
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Post by: Sean John 369 on May 05, 2008, 06:26:29 PM
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Post by: MrNattyBoh on May 05, 2008, 10:34:25 PM
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Mr. 298
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Post by: The SuperHitMan on May 05, 2008, 10:40:18 PM
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Post by: janderson on May 06, 2008, 08:47:22 AM
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i can find my mark and hit it pretty consistantly
Were you more consistent at hitting your mark when you couldn't find it?
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Post by: chitown on May 06, 2008, 08:51:30 AM
Post by: AdrianS on May 06, 2008, 10:38:48 PM
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