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charlest

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Ball purchase ethics ?
« on: January 05, 2004, 03:21:30 PM »
I've just been "disappointed" for the third time in 2 weeks
(And you know if I'm  using the word disappointed in quotes, my feeling right now is a lot more intense than what this word implies.)
Yet a third person here at ballreviews, and this is a 2nd one withwhom I have dealt previously so I trusted his word, made a verbal committment of such intensity. I have gotten such replies as,
"I have to have this ball",
"I desperately want this ball",
"I beg you to hold this ball for me until I get payment for the one I am selling",
and also
"Give me your address. I'll have the money order in the mail tomorrow."

Then one day or 2 weeks goes by and I get this,
"I found it cheaper" or
"I got it closer", or
"my girl friend won't let me buy it." or
 just plain no response at all.

Hey, I understand lots of questions, I understand a little haggling, altho' I price most NIB balls at a loss, just to get rid of them. After all I am not a dealer. Used balls, every one looks like it is completely unused except for the finger holes. I have even shipped balls before I got the money. I understand many other reasons which are not excuses.

What I don't understand is when people make statements like the above, which, if they were witnessed by someone, would be leaglly binding. What I don't understand is a lack of ethics or morals, whatever you want to call it.

You don't make a committment in writing or verbally unless you intend to keep it, or is that just too old-fashioned. You don't break a committment because it's not convenient. You don't make a committment because it is conveient. Well, I don't, anyway.

I guess from now on, without cash in hand, tell me any damned thing you want; just don't whine at me and don't ask me to "hold" any balls for you, without a deposit. You get the ball when I see cold hard cash. If any of my future replies seem a little pessimistic or cold, you won't wonder why.

To be honest, I ha dthought most of the people here were different. OK, you've taught me my lesson. I wonder if your average Ebay buyer has more ethics than I have seen here lately.

FWIW, if anyone dares to tell me publicly or privately that I'm whining, I'll will send you a private message that will make the paint on the walls blister. If it's callow and jaundiced you want, then that's what I'll be.

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Jeffrevs

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Re: Ball purchase ethics ?
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2004, 06:30:30 AM »
Charlest, stop whining ! Just kidding, I don't blame you one bit ! You really have to be careful anywhere you do business like this, whether it's here or on eBay,....especially eBay.

Hell, I've recently purchased a ball on here where after I made the commitment, I realized it wasn't really a great choice, but guess what.....I bought the ball anyhow....my fault..and I'm NOT going to penalize someone else.....

just my .02 !


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Jeffrevs

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Re: Ball purchase ethics ?
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2004, 06:38:31 AM »
Moj, I think that's exactly what he's already doing based upon how I took his post.  If you don't know this person, or haven't done business with them, no $$, no shippy! And, definately, no holding!
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agroves

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Re: Ball purchase ethics ?
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2004, 06:40:46 AM »
Sorry to here about your all your problems.  This is why I insist upon a reference from another "trusted" user of this site.  I got taken in a trade once myself.  I shipped the ball (Apex Intensity) to Justin Mast and he failed to send me a Storm Trauma ER.  Oh well, I guess live and learn.  

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Strider

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Re: Ball purchase ethics ?
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2004, 03:29:49 PM »
Rock on Charlest.

If it's one of the regulars, I'll give a lot of slack.  If it's something like an old ball that I'm giving away for the shipping I'm pretty lenient.  Other than that, you'd better be serious about it or it will go to someone else.

Don't hesitate to leave a neutral to negative feedback on the buyers/sellers forum.  That way others will know to be careful.
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9andaWiggle

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Re: Ball purchase ethics ?
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2004, 12:04:43 PM »
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Hell, I've recently purchased a ball on here where after I made the commitment, I realized it wasn't really a great choice, but guess what.....I bought the ball anyhow....


SUCKER!!!!

j/k!  I'd have done the same, but my reply above is what most people would probably think.

 
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You don't make a committment in writing or verbally unless you intend to keep it, or is that just too old-fashioned. You don't break a committment because it's not convenient. You don't make a committment because it is conveient. Well, I don't, anyway


Hmmm.... You were obviously raised with ethics.  A problem you should blame on your parents for doing what they were supposed to do.  Maybe you should hire Johnny Cochran and see if the courts won't issue you an outrageous settlement against them based upon the fact that you will "never get rich because you're too dam honest". lol.
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jkiser01

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Re: Ball purchase ethics ?
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2004, 12:24:32 PM »
Come on guys, things happen in life. Lets give each other some slack. I have had this happen alot of times as a seller and also had to change my mind as a buyer. As long as you tell the truth and not lead someone on, I see no problem in changing your mind.

charltest, I agree with your frustrations if the person told you all those things you listed..

I guess I'm too understanding..
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