Author Topic: Strength Training (Read 1489 times)

ShortAssassin · « **on:** July 26, 2007, 09:16:48 AM »

Hey guys, just wondering if anyone does any strength training to help get their backswing higher.

Big_Daddy_357 · « **Reply #1 on:** July 26, 2007, 05:25:41 PM »

higher backswing = open shoulders (no particular strength training for it I'd guess)
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ShortAssassin · « **Reply #2 on:** July 26, 2007, 05:28:15 PM »

Hmm, perhaps I phrased it wrong then. For people who get little backswing (can't support the ball well enough), is there any strength training they can do at home to help?

Big_Daddy_357 · « **Reply #3 on:** July 26, 2007, 05:50:58 PM »

Reading between the lines, I guess you're seeking more ball speed, correct? if so, it can be obtained several ways....

a) Higher backswing
b) converting 4 -> five step approach
c) Holding the ball a higher in your starting position
d) quickening your approach, thus creating more forward momentum to the line (can sometimes lead to greater inconsistency than the previous items)

As for strength training... any bicep, forearm and deltoid (shoulder muscle) exercise should do. Curls for biceps, wrist curls for forearms and dumbell lateral, front and rear raises for shoulders. Almost forgot the most important ... LEG EXERCISES If the foundation is weak, you have to use other muscles to compensate!

NOTE: The more relaxed you are, the easier it is to add speed to your shot. Less 'muscled' shot allows for greater range of motion.

Doesn't take a great deal of force for a 15lb object to knock over lesser weighted objects (especially when it only hits 4 pins!)

Hope this helps.

Good Luck!

V

P.S. I'm sure others will chime in with suggestions you may want to try
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Edited on 7/26/2007 5:52 PM

ShortAssassin · « **Reply #4 on:** July 26, 2007, 06:22:00 PM »

Well, even more than ball speed I'm trying to work on a correct throw. Right now I cradle the ball a little too much and can't bring my arm back very far. I still get good throws, but I feel learning to throw "correctly" might increase my consistency, and as of now I don't have the arm strength the do that. I generall end up on top of the ball instead of behind it on my release if I try to throw properly.

Big_Daddy_357 · « **Reply #5 on:** July 26, 2007, 06:42:18 PM »

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Well, even more than ball speed I'm trying to work on a correct throw. Right now I cradle the ball a little too much and can't bring my arm back very far. I still get good throws, but I feel learning to throw "correctly" might increase my consistency, and as of now I don't have the arm strength the do that. I generall end up on top of the ball instead of behind it on my release if I try to throw properly.

Is the ball to heavy for you? You don't necessarily have to "Man Up" by throwing a 16lb. ball to be effective. I know several bowlers who throw 14 and are hell-a-good

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ShortAssassin · « **Reply #6 on:** July 26, 2007, 06:47:43 PM »

I'm throwing a 15 and I don't think its necessarily to heavy, I can throw it fine semi-improperly. Maybe my form isn't correct when I try to throw properly so I don't get as much momentum as I could be.

Big_Daddy_357 · « **Reply #7 on:** July 26, 2007, 07:21:24 PM »

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I'm throwing a 15 and I don't think its necessarily to heavy, I can throw it fine semi-improperly. Maybe my form isn't correct when I try to throw properly so I don't get as much momentum as I could be.

Well, it's rather difficult to pinpoint your problem online, especially without video. Only true advice would be seeking a competent coach to assist you.
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ShortAssassin · « **Reply #8 on:** July 26, 2007, 08:05:03 PM »

Yeah, thanks for the advice though

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LuckyLefty · « **Reply #9 on:** July 26, 2007, 08:56:11 PM »

I had a friend with too short a span.

Had a short backswing and topped it.

He is as frail as they come.

But now with a proper fit....His backswing is normal and stopped the topping!.

He still is weak as can be. But is scoring great.

Strength should not be an issue in height of backswing as it should be free.

This from a strong guy with a muscled too high backswing!

REgards,

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ShortAssassin · « **Reply #10 on:** July 26, 2007, 08:59:38 PM »

Hmm, well my ball fits fine so I wonder what the problem is. I think I may be able to get a decent backswing, but there is still the issue of staying behind the ball on the way down, which could easily be a technique problem.

dizzyfugu · « **Reply #11 on:** July 27, 2007, 07:45:42 AM »

quote:
Hmm, perhaps I phrased it wrong then. For people who get little backswing (can't support the ball well enough), is there any strength training they can do at home to help?

A high backswing has nothing to do with muscle or force. It comes from good timing a free swing - unless you control the swing, which is not recommendable.
Under normal circumstances, you should be able to get the ball to shoulder height. If it is less, check a coach for help, since the source might be severe basic problems with timing and technique.
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no300tj · « **Reply #12 on:** July 27, 2007, 08:06:33 AM »

Your arm should be nothing but a lever swinging on a hinge(shoulder). The only time muscles should be involved is when holding the ball prior to pushaway. I agree with the others that a good coach is your best bet. This cradle thing is also a concern. If your arm is straight, this will lengthen the swing arc. That being said, ball fit would come into question. Do you cradle it because you feel as if you are going to drop it?

LuckyLefty · « **Reply #13 on:** July 30, 2007, 05:02:11 PM »

Well I just found this post over in drilling and all I've got to say....

Is you've got to be kidding me. Another in the endless line of spoof posters or posters to drum up interest out here.

ShortAssassin
Show Profile Contact User Add to Address Book Ignore User Posted: 7/23/2007 7:06 AM Reply with quote I was curious about this also. As it stands, none of the House balls I throw really fit me, so it's not rare for me to throw a few shots thumbless. However, I'm going to the pro shop tonight to get my own ball. When I visualize a comfortable fit it seems that the thumb hole would be slightly left of the middle finger hole (looking directly at holes).

You don't even have your own ball?...are using house balls and yet you know your span and pitches are not the problem for your topping and cradling of the ball.......OK!

Or would it be....ooops I forgot I put out this other post.....oy ey veay!

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ShortAssassin · « **Reply #14 on:** July 30, 2007, 05:07:32 PM »

Sorry for looking for bowling help on a bowling forum? And I have my own ball and had it when I made this post.

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