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Jeffrevs

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Bleeder ??
« on: September 24, 2003, 04:22:30 PM »
Stupid question!!!

I've seen this / heard this quite a bit lately, but I'm not too ashamed to ask what the hell does it mean ?? LOL.....What is a "bleeder"?

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charlest

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Re: Bleeder ??
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2003, 08:08:02 AM »
The "bleeder" was originally, I believe, a Columbia Yellow Dot, a soft polyester red ball that grabbed the lane much earlier than the traditional White Dot, in the 1970s. The bleeder came in the plastic bag and the inside of many of bags were soaked with what I assume was liquid plastic, oozing out of the ball. When pro shops opened these in front of the customer (I was such a "lucky" customer), the guy went "ooooh", "aaah", you got a "bleeder". The more plastic in the bag, the greater the grabbiness of the ball.

My luck was that my ball had bottom weight, which in these 3 piece core and in those days was death. Been spooked by bottom weight balls ever since. Just learning to ignore it in recent years ...



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Re: Bleeder ??
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2003, 08:12:28 AM »
In the dark days before Urethane the 'bleeder' plastic ball ruled. The Columbia yellow dot was the most successful one. I think Ebonite made something similar in about 1980. The plastic shell of the Yellow Dot acted like this('stuff' migrating from the interior of the shell to the outside for better ball reaction) apparently because the tanker delivering a batch of plastic resin to the factory had 'something' in the bottom because it wasn't cleaned very well. This mystery stuff gave the bleeder yellow dots their muscle. Because there were only so many batches of them bowlers learnt which serial numbers to look for on a NIB ball to tell if it came from a 'bleeder' batch. I've come up with this just from reading stuff on the net, mainly from here and the PBA boards so anyone correct me where i've gone wrong.
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Jeffrevs

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Re: Bleeder ??
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2003, 08:12:45 AM »
So, literally....a bleeder ?!?
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Re: Bleeder ??
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2003, 08:24:06 AM »

awww geez Jeff...are you leeching off the site again

What others have posted is the general essence of the bleeders.  The most noted examples were the Yellow Dot and the RotoGrip RH (there stuff was produced in the Columbia shop at that point in time).  Different hypotheses exist about why they came about, but there is some consideration that the weather in San Antonio affected some production batches more than others, which is why some of the serial numbers are considered more desirable than others.  

Under the right lane conditions, the true bleeders can be made to move similar to a weak resin.  The hit is sometimes a little suspect because of the pancake weight block.  They also shine up reeeeeaaaaaally nice

Jeffrevs

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Re: Bleeder ??
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2003, 09:58:53 AM »
My Dad had a Shur-D Pro,...could mark it with your fingernail!!
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Jeffrevs

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Re: Bleeder ??
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2003, 11:41:05 AM »
WOW! talk about a quick education!!  Thanks all...and yes Michelle,...I am !!

Funny, my mom had a yellow dot and my dad had a Shur-D pro !

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Aristotle

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Re: Bleeder ??
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2003, 01:33:13 PM »
Ah, but I think that I have seen the most unique bleeder ever. A buddy of mine a while back was cleaning out his locker at the end of a season, and I see this ball plop out of the locker that looked like it had never been removed from the locker. The ball looked like it had been coated in a layer of dust. Being really curious to see what he had been hiding in there, I went to look and ask what it was. To my surprise, the ball had never been punched, and my friend told me that it was a bleeder. I asked how long he had it in the locker since it looked like it was covered in dust and he informed me that it wasn't dust, but the ball bled DRY. I looked closely at the ball, and sure enough, the coloration on the ball wasn't a dust layer, but a layer of some kind of crust. On top of that, the ball had never been punched or anything.. Always wondered what he could get for that ball if he ever decided to sell it as some kind of collector's item