Thanks everyone for the input. By the way to clear up some confusion. When I say low end I mean low price point but stronger than intended. I'm trying to decide what ball my cousin should get . He needs something stronger yet affordable. I've been trying to to force him to play straighter because his current ball is too weak and it's time for an upgrade. I'm thinking between wrecker, shooting star, rising star, grape vibe, and a cyclone. What are the motions on these balls like. Although I have a wrecker, I drilled it with a p4 weight hole which makes it jump off dry and rev similar to my old virtual gravity. Probably leaning toward a wrecker because my friend shot a 300 with his.