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Moon57

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How many people need a particle ball these days?
« on: August 03, 2008, 11:41:15 PM »
I'm wondering how many people feel the need to carry a particle these days. The ball companies don't seem too interested in making them anymore. Do the current lane conditions negate the need for a particle ball? If you do carry a particle ball could you please state why and what ball you have? Thanks.
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dizzyfugu

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Re: How many people need a particle ball these days?
« Reply #46 on: August 05, 2008, 11:25:27 AM »
IMHO it is not a question of need, rather a technology option that I personally like to have. With the advancement of production methods for reactive urethane, we might see the gap closed between recative coverstocks and particle additives - but still I think that particle has its "justification" in the market.

Particle has disappeared from the high end balls - but I am not sold on the idea that this is the end for hard and microscopic additions to the coverstock that enhance friction with mechanical means. Friction from porous reactives comes at a price: oil absorbtion and texture maintenance. While high friction coverstocks show great performance when fresh, the maintenance needs become ridiculous - unless you are the person to buy any new "supa hooka" ball each season to discard it after 50 games (when it might die, anyway). Such cases are rumored to exist.

I think that particle, coupled with some less bling coverstock base offers similar (probably not the same, since it is a different technology) performance in oil, and the extra traction that a carbide particle load adds to a coverstock, is IMHO hard to beat when things get spotty. That's why I LOVE my Fuze Eliminator - you will have to peel it from my cold, stiff fingers, or it will fall apart.
If you want control, particle is IMHO the ticket to success - not a high friction reactive sponge coverstock. It will probably even last longer - but that's nothing the indutry cares much about, I think.

That's why I invested into a NS2 as an oil ball in my arsenal, not a "modern" reactive piece for oil. Well, tomorrow I'll see if my high hopes in particle were justified
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earlthepearle

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Re: How many people need a particle ball these days?
« Reply #47 on: August 05, 2008, 11:35:19 AM »
I will never leave home without one...(particle)

If anything, just carry a light load particle in the bag...you never know.

Here in my area....most bowling centers will change the THS every 2 or 3 weeks....Granted, its still a THS after the adjustment...but you DO notice the change....More oil on the edges and the mids.

With these changes, a particle is a must with me

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Re: How many people need a particle ball these days?
« Reply #48 on: August 05, 2008, 02:07:25 PM »
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If anything, just carry a light load particle in the bag...you never know.


Yup! Can definitively save the day
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Re: How many people need a particle ball these days?
« Reply #49 on: August 05, 2008, 02:52:55 PM »
the comment about those using particle balls "probably need lessons" would hold equally true for anyone using reactive as well. i.e. it doesn't really make for much of an argument. i am sure the pros could hook a urethane ball and i am sure all of us could use lessons. pros work with coaches all the time. i for one would love to go to kegel or work with fred borden. if you love the game you always want to (and can) improve.
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Moon57

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Re: How many people need a particle ball these days?
« Reply #50 on: August 05, 2008, 05:26:03 PM »
"Is "needing" a particle ball seen as some sort of handicap? "How many bowlers really need one?" makes it sound like those of us who use particle equipment have some handicap that ordinary resin equipment cannot solve."

Shelly, I didn't mean my question the way you took it. I could have said, how many people feel lane conditions warrant carrying a particle ball? To me both questions mean the same. I am surprised at the amount of responses though. I asked the question initially because I don't see many people using a particle ball. I've had some good scores at one house using a 2000 abralon Mammoth. I've also got a Sidewinder I'm trying different surfaces on to see if I can fit it in someplace. I may be joining a modified sport league in the fall and might need a particle to fill my arsenal out.
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