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Strapper_Squared

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Lane Play Video
« on: December 05, 2015, 08:39:23 AM »
http://www.usbcbowlingacademy.com/video/choosing-a-bowling-ball-thats-right-for-your-arsenal-008630/

The video starts with throwing on a longer pattern.  It states if a shot is pulled in a bit, it reacts too strongly and goes high.  The conclusion is that a stronger cover/core ball is needed.  However this line of thought is not explained. 

I would say it may be counter intuitive that if a ball over reacts, one should go with a stronger cover/core ball.  Especially since the stronger ball is more angluar as well.

Why would someone make this move if they experienced the reaction shown with the Hysteria on the long pattern in the video?
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Strapper_Squared

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Re: Lane Play Video
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2015, 08:48:16 AM »
Especially since the stronger balls looked like they were going through the pins worse than the Hysteria...
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Re: Lane Play Video
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2015, 08:58:08 AM »
I think rational is that the weaker ball would leave splits when she missed her target.  I typically don't like to use shiny balls on fresh oil especially if the pattern is longer.  Tend to leave unmakeable spares.
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Re: Lane Play Video
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2015, 09:40:37 AM »
a switch to the more aggressive ball may give you more miss room right. with the weaker ball on a flat pattern you will be trying to play much tighter and therefore have no miss room right and more pulled shots inside.
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Re: Lane Play Video
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2015, 10:36:16 AM »
They were saying that the hysteria had to much stored energy when she missed left and would generally go through the nose. With the stronger ball, especially assym, its losing energy going down lane so if you miss in, it may be high flush, and 4 pin leaves instead of splits. They weren't looking for 240 ball reaction, probably just 210 ball reaction as was mentioned in the video

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Re: Lane Play Video
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2015, 07:06:20 PM »
It makes a lot of sense about having a few go to layouts and letting the ball or surface be the difference in lining up. People always want to find some new magic layout but many of the best keep it simple and let the ball or surface be the difference. It makes it much easier when changing balls to get lined up having a better idea of the reaction to expect versus being a bigger guessing game.

In reference to the original question I think the benchmark ball with the shine knocked off of it would be the best option from what I saw of the few shots on the lane. Yes a stronger ball and surface allows her to open up a little missing right....Im guessing the idea is surface will also have a slower response to friction when the ball is pulled leaving the chance for a single pin leave or so versus going through the face with the shiny benchmark.
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Re: Lane Play Video
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2015, 01:07:35 PM »
It really depends on what you are trying to accomplish going to a stronger shell on a long pattern.  Too many people try to use the stronger shell to open up the lane.  This usually doesn't work well.  If you can use a stronger shell and still play fairly straight you can benefit from more hit.  I have had better luck using strong pearls on long patterns because I can still get them in to a roll and the pearl shell lets me get some hold area I might not see from an aggressive shell. 

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Re: Lane Play Video
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2015, 03:06:04 PM »
I've noticed when I don't match up correctly either in ball choice, surface preparation or both that's a 180s-block average all day for me, and a block average in the 190s at best if I've left more single-pin spares than multiple-pin spares or splits.

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Re: Lane Play Video
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2015, 08:47:48 AM »
They were saying that the hysteria had to much stored energy when she missed left and would generally go through the nose. With the stronger ball, especially assym, its losing energy going down lane so if you miss in, it may be high flush, and 4 pin leaves instead of splits. They weren't looking for 240 ball reaction, probably just 210 ball reaction as was mentioned in the video
This is more along the lines.  The goal is breakpoint control and if the ball saves too much energy it becomes unpredictable when it leaves the pattern.  Burning energy early will tame down the reaction in the dry, thus going to a stronger ball to burn early is the goal.