I think a summer average should only be considered for a bowler if they do not have a fall average for the past three years. I know a problem we run into in my area is people bowl tournaments for years, or don't bowl for a few years, then go to join a league and find out they have to come in at 210. Some of these bowlers are 220+ caliber and others are around 190-200. I think that a summer average would help these bowlers get a fair chance at a league and not have to sink the potential for a team to be competitive. However, if you have current averages i don't think summer average should count towards anything other than shop talk...
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In some areas normal leagues are going away.  A league may start in June and end in October.  If it is sanctioned how is it counted?  Many leagues are now going 16 weeks and start at any date.  Sanctioning them makes sense and they have to be recorded.

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I think this rule was voted in to force the baggers to bag year round instead of just during the winter
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much easier to average 230 for 12/14 weeks than average 210/215 for 35/36 weeks, but as some have said, will help eliminate sandbagging and if the tourney chooses to place in their rules that summer averages wont count, then no big deal...

i can also see this leading to a lot of people not bowling summer leagues or only bowling 18 games in a league so their big average doesnt count
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Just curious. But does this go into affect this Summer? Doesn't really matter to me. I kinda agree with the rule. Make people bowl their best more of the time. No sense in letting them score like crazy in the summer but drop 20 pins in average once the real bowling starts lol.

Actually summer averages have supposed to been in the book for years. I was a delegate the year it was passed and our executive director spoke against the change. The summer still is not in the book and probably never will be due to printing schedules. They are listed on bowl.com now, as long as the secretary turns them in. I admit I normally don't to keep from having someone punished for a good week or two. Now I will have to turn those in too.

I think the big thing is if you run tournaments, and I do, we will have to write in the rules if we do not want to count summer averages now or you will have to really use your highest book. That highest now will include summer. I think this could have a negative affect on summer leagues for some bowlers. On the flip side as mentioned by others. I have seen summer averages 15-20 pins higher than winter. Is that because the centers juice up the shot in the summer to inspire bowlers for the winter, the shorter season or those bowlers let loose and really bowl because they know it didn't really matter.

I would be against it.

I went on a run for about 12 weeks bowling two leagues where I was averaging 230 during the 2nd half of the season. I finished the year with 219 in both. If that was a summer league and I was averaging 230, and knew it would have to count I would start sandbagging the rest of that summer to get my average back down. Usually it doesn't matter once you get close to 220 because you have no handicap anyways, but it can still effect leagues with caps.

I also understand that it would be easy for a lower average bowler to have a few good weeks and get the minimum games in and be screwed with a higher book average then they deserve. Sandbaggers usually flock to unsanctioned events to prevent worries on average anyways.

Just another great reason to avoid summer leagues and play golf.


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