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mixnmash

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What causes this
« on: November 11, 2003, 05:31:18 PM »
A friend of mine and myself, went to a new pro shop yesterday as we have been trying to find a new one to do business with. The guy seemed really knowledgable
and did a great job. I have always just bowled and left the layout and drilling stuff to the pro shop. However, as of late I have been trying to learn everything I can about the drilling aspect of the game. While going over both of our old equipment, he mentioned that we had inverted tracks. I'm righty, my friend is lefty and we both had our equipment drilled by the same guy before. so what causes this "inverted track"? I am not familiar with it and maybe it is called something else in your neck of the woods but it is basically flaring closer to the fingers than the thumb. Is it a product of the drilling or the bowlers release? Both of us are 220+ and have different styles, both are above avg speed and revs, I am smooth and have more textbook form, while he twists the crap out of old red pearl Hammers. Any help is appreciated......

 

charlest

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Re: What causes this
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2003, 08:51:41 AM »
AN inverted track is a result of how you release the ball, obviously. Your thumb is probably on the 1:00 side of the clock face, if you're a righty, when it exits the ball, and I'd guess your axis tilt is low.

There is nothing unusual about an inverted track; I have one, depending on how I release the ball. I think it was Tom Kouros, a very respected coach and bowling writer, who said something like if you are a cranker, this is actually the preferred track. No matter.

An inverted track has a PAP locaiton just like every other bowler. Make sure your driller locates it and drills your balls accordingly. This nonsense that everyone seems to keep spouting about my pin is located here and here with respect to the ring finger or the thumb is a lot of misleading information, unless you know where his or her PAP is. The pin and CG/MB should be located always with respect to the PAP, NOT the holes.
 
If you are averaging 220+, that is ample evidence that you are doing more than somehting right. If I were you, I would take my best reacting balls and have this new guy figure what is the pin and CG positions with repsect to your true PAP and keep that info as a reference point.
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janderson

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Re: What causes this
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2003, 09:22:17 AM »
Just for confirmation, charlest is correct.  Placement of the pin
is significant only in relation to your positive axis point (PAP).

The pin in relation to the finger holes is just a general guide
to the distance between the the pin and PAP.
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mixnmash

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Re: What causes this
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2003, 09:50:59 AM »
That seems to make Charlest, as I do have lower tilt at around 8 degrees. I can add tilt or take it away but my natural release is around 8. I release naturally around 45 degrees of rotation but can play pretty much anything as far rotation goes comfortably. My bowtie is just above my middle finger on my older equipment. My old driller would always say that my pin had to be above my grips or I would track over the fingers. I asked Mo Pinell and Del Warren (bowling seminar) about this and Mo said I can place the pin anywhere I want and you will never track over them. So to make a long story short...I didn't get a ball that day but I got one yesterday and drove out to the guy who was drilling during the clinic and he punched a Phenom up for me with the pin under and it tracks lower than any ball I have (good thing). Also, I do stay way under and behind the ball just like Plus 40's friend.