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carlos

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Surface Change
« on: October 12, 2013, 08:27:03 PM »
Is there a huge difference in reaction between 1000 Abralon and 2000 ? If a ball is 2000 OOB and you take it to 1000 what should be expected. Trying to get a better understanding about surface change. Thanks Carlos

 

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Re: Surface Change
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2013, 08:43:56 PM »
strong cover,strong core,big difference. weaker cover,weaker core,smaller difference.IMO.
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Re: Surface Change
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2013, 09:08:19 PM »
Plus, I think the more revs you have, the bigger change you will see.  A 500 rpm bowler will see a much bigger difference than the 200 rev bowler. 

You should see an earlier reaction with the 1000 surface vs the 2000 surface. 



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Re: Surface Change
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2013, 10:41:48 PM »
Is there a huge difference in reaction between 1000 Abralon and 2000 ? If a ball is 2000 OOB and you take it to 1000 what should be expected. Trying to get a better understanding about surface change. Thanks Carlos

In general, the rougher the surface, the earlier the ball will hook and the more it will hook (IF YOU ARE USING IT ON ENOUGH OIL) and the less length and the less backend you will see. If you are not using it on enough oil, you may start to see 8 - 10s (if right handed, or 7 - 9s, if left handed) or washouts.

The more rev dominant you are, the larger the change you will see.
The more speed dominant you are, the less change you will see.

1000 grit is fairly rough these days. It might be rough enough to cause you to ONLY use it on heavier oil. Going from 4000 grit to 2000 grit might not be enough of a change to require more oil. It depends both on how much oil you are using it right now and how speed- or rev-dominant you are.
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Re: Surface Change
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2013, 03:31:08 PM »
Is there a huge difference in reaction between 1000 Abralon and 2000 ? If a ball is 2000 OOB and you take it to 1000 what should be expected. Trying to get a better understanding about surface change. Thanks Carlos

In general, the rougher the surface, the earlier the ball will hook and the more it will hook (IF YOU ARE USING IT ON ENOUGH OIL) and the less length and the less backend you will see. If you are not using it on enough oil, you may start to see 8 - 10s (if right handed, or 7 - 9s, if left handed) or washouts.

The more rev dominant you are, the larger the change you will see.
The more speed dominant you are, the less change you will see.

1000 grit is fairly rough these days. It might be rough enough to cause you to ONLY use it on heavier oil. Going from 4000 grit to 2000 grit might not be enough of a change to require more oil. It depends both on how much oil you are using it right now and how speed- or rev-dominant you are.

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Re: Surface Change
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2013, 03:39:37 PM »

No doubt lifted verbatim from Bowling This Month or Bowlers Journal


Maybe the crux of this information was published there at some point, but it's the truth, none the less. Serious bowlers who perform their own surface adjustments understand Charlest's post. Kudos to Carlos for being willing to ask and learn.

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Re: Surface Change
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2013, 07:21:09 PM »
Thanks for directing in the right direction concerning surface change. I rarely change the surface on a ball that's why I was asking. Also I'm doing it by hand on a AZO Area Check that I think has lost some of its backend reaction. Thanks again. Carlos

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Re: Surface Change
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2013, 08:33:40 PM »
Pretty sure Charlest has this on lockdown. He has no need to rip off BTM, BJI, or any other publication.