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TheBowlingKid25

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Take one for the team or save yourself?
« on: November 28, 2004, 11:03:32 PM »
Say your in a team event, and you find a good shot with a dull ball, and your scoring well. If you knew you were going to screw up the shot for everyone on your team, would you take a dive and switch balls/lines, so that they can score well, and maybe make up for it, or would you keep your shot and try to shoot the lights out?
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TJFreaky24

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Re: Take one for the team or save yourself?
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2004, 07:11:19 AM »
I always say team first, me second. However, in this instance I feel it is my responsibility to score. If I can go out and shoot a 250 game while screwing up the shot of my teammates, I'm gonna do it. This may sound selfish but I expect my teammates to adjust their shot based upon what the lanes dictate. If I mess up their shot, then so be it. They need to adjust and find a new shot to play. I would expect my teammates would do the same thing in my place.
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Re: Take one for the team or save yourself?
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2004, 07:24:58 AM »


it's not like i hit the same mark twice...


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Re: Take one for the team or save yourself?
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2004, 07:30:02 AM »
Thats an easy one for me, I stick with the shot, cause I would be the only lefty on the team, so I would just be "screwing up" the other lefties shot.
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JOE FALCO

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Re: Take one for the team or save yourself?
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2004, 07:44:39 AM »
I find it hard to believe that there are bowlers who select a line that will NOT mess up their team. I have a tough enough time finding MY OWN line .. thinking about what my teammate use is OUT OF THE QUESTION! Think of one of your teammates coming to and asking you to change your line .. you're messing me up! It might be the laugh of the night!
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Re: Take one for the team or save yourself?
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2004, 08:03:38 AM »
if it's the same shot they have, it's only a matter of time before they run it out and then nobody has a shot. Take the shot and let them keep making spares, you will run up a higher total that way. Because when everyone breaks it down then nobody will score, so it's better atleast one scores for a time being and everyone else fills frames.
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Re: Take one for the team or save yourself?
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2004, 09:02:52 AM »
While it may not sound nice, take your line.  If you found one that works, go with it.  If they are good enough that you would even think of taking a dive, they should be able to adjust.  There is never only one line you can play (especially since all tourneys are usually a wall excluding the sport shots).

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a_ak57

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Re: Take one for the team or save yourself?
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2004, 09:48:48 AM »
GASP!  *takes out piece of paper*  Me and Bones actually said the same thing!!!  "Is there only one line that can be played on a condition"......

Wow.

 
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but certainly there are successful teams where maybe only 2 members are playing near the same line.
 

That's my team.  Last YABA season (my first) we won our league.  This summer (non-sanctioned) we held first for a few months.  Then i left for vacation teh last two weeks and my team choked and lost first.  And now, we are doing well again (we've held first place for every week except one or two).

Our players?  Dave, a fluffer.  RJ, a stroker.  Drew (who joined this site but never came back), a......well i guess he's a low end tweener.  And me, the high end tweener who adjusts and knows all the technical stuff (they want to call me the professor since i "know so much".)  Needless to say we all play different lines, but it works well.  Actually we have an advantage because if one person doesn't find a line, it doesn't mean the rest of us won't.
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Re: Take one for the team or save yourself?
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2004, 10:56:03 AM »
Agree with most, take your shot and its up to the team to adjust.  If you score well and your team doesn't, then it's on them to pick it up.  what happens if you fluff off to help your team, and they still don't shoot well?  Then you lose AND you know there was something you could've done about it.  That's the worst feeling in the world to me on a team, knowing I blew it.
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mumzie

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Re: Take one for the team or save yourself?
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2004, 11:42:35 AM »
I can probably help the team more by staying in my game and on my line - and maybe helping them understand what's happening with the lanes.
If I can open up a shot for them, so much the better.

When I bowled ABC this last year, I subbed on a team - I knew no one when we started. Both teams on the pair were with the same group. Before we started bowling, the team captains got together, and told us all to get out our most aggressive stuff, and throw 10 board in practice and for the first game, so we could open the shot for everyone.
Well, I did. I pulled out the super carbide bomb, and nailed 10 board shot after shot. Some of the other guys were at 15, 8, 6, etc, When I asked them what they were doing, they looked at me with question marks over their head, and told me they were playing the 10 board - what was wrong with me - couldn't I see??? I couldn't believe what I was hearing/seeing!!!
Needless to say, the shot didn't open up, and we all bowled really bad. Except one of the two lefties.
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Re: Take one for the team or save yourself?
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2004, 06:55:44 PM »
I would have to agree with TJFreaky24 on this topic
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Re: Take one for the team or save yourself?
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2004, 08:25:44 PM »
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Say your in a team event, and you find a good shot with a dull ball, and your scoring well. If you knew you were going to screw up the shot for everyone on your team, would you take a dive and switch balls/lines, so that they can score well, and maybe make up for it, or would you keep your shot and try to shoot the lights out?


BK, slowly step away from the bottle of Sawbones Pills...

I think I'd keep playing the same line, and drop hints to the team to line up off me.  It might work, and it might not... this is a hard question to answer because nine times out of ten my teammates are always never in the same ZIP code I'm playing.  *sigh*
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Re: Take one for the team or save yourself?
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2004, 09:36:33 PM »
We face this issue often on Monday nights, as each lefty plays a different part of the lane. Tonight the leadoff bowler was playing 15-10 for most of the night til he moved outside in game three, the 4th bowler played 18-8 with an XXXtreme at best going 14 mph and I took out my Hot Wire and played 10 to 4. Chances are I could have moved inside and swung out more with a more aggressive ball, but the shot in this house doesn't warrant it for my game.

I would take what works and hope to help others lineup off of what I'm doing. Sometimes people can do that, other times people insist on playing only one way with one line on the lanes, and all you can do is hope for the best.

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