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Title: Talk about stooping to an all time low....
Post by: FBM357 on February 13, 2009, 01:02:05 AM
Now this really bites!!!

There's a bowler in my league who doesn't wear bowling shoes due to medical reasons (i.e. lack of ankle support, etc.)  He's a good bowler and like by "almost" everyone.  Few weeks ago, while bowling against the leagues 'ego-maniac', he put the 'smack down' on him.  I mean just shut the ego-maniac down!!!  Needless to say, the ego-maniac complained the guy wasn't using bowling shoes and decided to push the issue with his wife (she's the league sec.) to research.  Basically she learned it's ultimately the proprietors discretion to allow it or not, which she found no problem allowing.

Learning this, the ego-maniac pushes the envelope and says to the owner ..."if he slips and falls, you can be sued"  The owner then change her mind and now the bowler is considering quitting!

Here's the pisser, the bowler can bowl action without bowling shoes!!!!

Talk about sore losers!!!  WTF is wrong with people?  As men, are you so vendictive, you result to 'feministic' ways of dealing with things?  And of all things, this is BOWLING!  not a LIFE THREATENING SITUATION!
Title: Re: Talk about stooping to an all time low....
Post by: jls on February 13, 2009, 09:13:40 AM
But to be honest here.  I don't know of any house in my area that will allow anyone to bowl without shoes.

So just maybe, the guy was right.

And yes he is a sore loser.
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Edited on 2/13/2009 11:54 AM
Title: Re: Talk about stooping to an all time low....
Post by: DukeHarding on February 13, 2009, 11:34:07 AM
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But to be honest here.  I don't know of any house in my area that will allow anyone to bowl without shoes.

So just maybe, the guy was right.

And yes he is a sore loser.
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Edited on 2/13/2009 11:54 AM




FYI...

I bowled with a guy for 35 years, he wore gym shoes everywhere...even the Nationals.
As long as your shoes do not mark the approach in any way...you can wear gym shoes.

When he was denied, a few times he contacted the ABC/USBC, and the center was forced into allowing him to bowl.
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On Edit:

He had to send a shoe into the ABC, it was checks...they returned the shoe, along with an acceptance letter...this was back in the '80s.

Edited on 2/13/2009 12:36 PM
Title: Re: Talk about stooping to an all time low....
Post by: FBM357 on February 13, 2009, 11:43:41 AM
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[I bowled with a guy for 35 years, he wore gym shoes everywhere...even the Nationals.
As long as your shoes do not mark the approach in any way...you can wear gym shoes.

When he was denied, a few times he contacted the ABC/USBC, and the center was forced into allowing him to bowl.
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Majority of the people in the league were under the same impression.  I'll ask him to follow up by contacting ABC/USBC.

Thanks Duke
Title: Re: Talk about stooping to an all time low....
Post by: mainzer on February 13, 2009, 11:47:29 AM
lady I work with was telling me that her husband bowled and forgot to take is street shoes off before bowling... and no one said anything!!! I don't know if I believe it or not but if I was on the same pair and he went up their with his street shoes on after being outside in Wisconsin I would shoot him then pack my stuff up and go home. Not ruining my heels and soles trying to follow that fool around.

Sorry if that is harsh but that is how I feel

Ego maniac needs to chill though if that is all the other guy uses the shoes for is bowling then it shouldn't be a big deal.
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Edited on 2/13/2009 12:48 PM
Title: Re: Talk about stooping to an all time low....
Post by: Mvpbowler on February 13, 2009, 11:47:37 AM
I would have that guy talk with the owner of the bowl and see if he can sign a liability waiver. Basically saying if he slips and falls the center is not at fault and that he understood wearing no shoes very well could of caused this fall!

But yes like Duke said, alot of people do that. Wear street shoes for bowling purposes
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Title: Re: Talk about stooping to an all time low....
Post by: Spider Ball Bowler on February 13, 2009, 11:50:23 AM
Um, I know a lot of people that have a different pair of regular shoes that they use for bowling shoes, because they plant.

I think someone would be more apt to fall when trying to slide, than they would be walking normally and planting at the line.
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Title: Re: Talk about stooping to an all time low....
Post by: J_w73 on February 13, 2009, 12:26:05 PM
As long as they are dedicated for bowling and not worn for normal use outside and as long as they don't leave rubber or mark the surface of the approaches, I would see nothing wrong with it.
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Title: Re: Talk about stooping to an all time low....
Post by: Kid Jete on February 13, 2009, 12:35:12 PM
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As long as they are dedicated for bowling and not worn for normal use outside and as long as they don't leave rubber or mark the surface of the approaches, I would see nothing wrong with it.
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High Series 782
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PBA Xperience ave 180
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Yup would be no different than wearing a left handed and right handed none slide foot SST or soemthing.  With that said why can't the guy wear shoes?  I have never heard of a medical condition that won't allow a person to wear shoes.   Does he go barefoot everywhere?
Title: Re: Talk about stooping to an all time low....
Post by: tarheel_bk on February 13, 2009, 12:42:26 PM
correct me if I am wrong but I think the guy was saying he had bad ankles and wears gym shoes with a higher ankle on them.  Like I said I could be wrong but that is how I understood the what he was saying.
Title: Re: Talk about stooping to an all time low....
Post by: Kid Jete on February 13, 2009, 12:44:16 PM
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correct me if I am wrong but I think the guy was saying he had bad ankles and wears gym shoes with a higher ankle on them.  Like I said I could be wrong but that is how I understood the what he was saying.




My point is... how is bowling with socks "good ankle support".  You'd think if anything it would be more hazardous because both feet slide.
Title: Re: Talk about stooping to an all time low....
Post by: J_w73 on February 13, 2009, 12:45:17 PM
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correct me if I am wrong but I think the guy was saying he had bad ankles and wears gym shoes with a higher ankle on them.  Like I said I could be wrong but that is how I understood the what he was saying.



I think so too.. high tops of some sort.
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PAP 5 1/2 x 3/8 up
High Game 300 x 3
High Series 782
Book Average 215 / 205
PBA Xperience ave 180
years bowling 22
Title: Re: Talk about stooping to an all time low....
Post by: Danes07 on February 13, 2009, 12:51:48 PM
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correct me if I am wrong but I think the guy was saying he had bad ankles and wears gym shoes with a higher ankle on them.  Like I said I could be wrong but that is how I understood the what he was saying.




My point is... how is bowling with socks "good ankle support".  You'd think if anything it would be more hazardous because both feet slide.


I think you misunderstood.  He doesn't bowl with bowling shoes, but he bowls with a pair of high top shoes for ankle support.
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Title: Re: Talk about stooping to an all time low....
Post by: Kid Jete on February 13, 2009, 12:54:43 PM
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correct me if I am wrong but I think the guy was saying he had bad ankles and wears gym shoes with a higher ankle on them.  Like I said I could be wrong but that is how I understood the what he was saying.




My point is... how is bowling with socks "good ankle support".  You'd think if anything it would be more hazardous because both feet slide.


I think you misunderstood.  He doesn't bowl with bowling shoes, but he bowls with a pair of high top shoes for ankle support.
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That makes more sense than.  Like I said early it's no different than wearing the left and right non slide shoes on normal bowling shoes.  There's no problem with what he's doing.  Tell ego-maniac to get better.
Title: Re: Talk about stooping to an all time low....
Post by: justdale on February 13, 2009, 12:56:08 PM
If he is wearing Tennies I don't really think slipping is his biggest concern, planting too hard will damage the knee.


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Title: Re: Talk about stooping to an all time low....
Post by: DukeHarding on February 13, 2009, 01:22:23 PM
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correct me if I am wrong but I think the guy was saying he had bad ankles and wears gym shoes with a higher ankle on them.  Like I said I could be wrong but that is how I understood the what he was saying.



My 70-year-old brother wears high-tops, that he had converted to bowling shoes by a shoemaker. The guy put a slide sole on the sliding foot.

I couldn't bowl with regular low-top shoes, because of a birth defect (non-moveable joint in my non-sliding foot.) I wear Dexter Sports w/WalkFit orthotics.


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Title: Re: Talk about stooping to an all time low....
Post by: trash heap on February 13, 2009, 01:33:51 PM
yeah justdale is right. Most shoes outside of bowling is going to stick not slip.

The ego"jerk" is trying to find a loop hole because he took a #$$ whoopin!!!
Title: Re: Talk about stooping to an all time low....
Post by: tenpinspro on February 13, 2009, 02:10:22 PM
You did say "ego-maniac" didn't you?  If it isn't the shoes, it'll be something else.

Linds used to make custom high tops to help support weak ankles but stopped years ago due to lack of sales I guess, they weren't cheap.

FBM, have your friend take in a pair of his shoes to a shoe smith and see if they have a slide sole of some type.  I worked with a local shoe smith who was able to obtain similar bowling shoe slide material and I have quite a few customers who have converted regular shoes into useable bowling shoes.  I even have one guy who has the only "bowling" sandals that I've ever seen.
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Title: Re: Talk about stooping to an all time low....
Post by: JessN16 on February 13, 2009, 02:24:40 PM
You want to stick this back in ego-maniac's face? Tell him that if the center DOESN'T let the guy wear support shoes, he can sue the center under the Americans With Disabilities Act for purposes of access.

Jess