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carlitopeters

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Why the 8 pin?...
« on: June 26, 2008, 12:09:20 AM »
Yesterday I left the 8 pin three times. If it's a 7 or 10 I understand, it feels bad but I understand that I will leave those pins and why. But the 8 and 3 times? Second game I left it after a double and then I proceeded to miss it = 191. Then for the 3rd game I go strike - 8 pin - double - 8 pin. An easy 230 game was 185 instead. The lanes were drier than usual but I felt I made a good adjustment, the 3rd game I think I missed the pocket only once. Well, 8 pin happens. This on the same pair I have my best series (720) and with the same ball I put that number (RedZone - pin just above and to the right of ring finger, CG stacked, PSA at the edge of thumb hole, flare increasing X-hole).
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Dan Belcher

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Re: Why the 8 pin?...
« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2008, 01:45:57 PM »
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But no matter how many 230s turn into 180s, they simply cannot compare to this.

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"I don't believe it!!"  Whenever I see a stone 8 pin, that's always the very first thing that comes to mind.
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Grayson

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Re: Why the 8 pin?...
« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2008, 02:26:42 PM »
funny thing... I threw it real hard today but had not a single "8er" today
seems that certain entryangle avoid this and with some it can happen more easy..
I guess speed and rev match also play a bit role.

well.. I had days I had at least three 8s laughing at me
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Re: Why the 8 pin?...
« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2008, 02:46:09 PM »
i always seem to leave quite a few when i am coming into the pocket with very little angle,
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leftyinsnellville

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Re: Why the 8 pin?...
« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2008, 02:49:51 PM »
Blame it on technology!  The reactive resin coverstocks have been perfected to such a degree that the ball just rips into the pocket once it hits the dry.  As many have said before, the stone 8 comes from your ball driving through the deck and kicking the 5 out a little stronger than usual.  The ball still deflects off the 5 to carry the nine, but the end result is no stike on a high flush shot into the pocket.  That can tick off even the most affable bowler.  

Something as little as not cleaning the oil off your ball between shots can make the difference.  Perhaps if your Red Zone didn't have the weight hole you would have carried those shots. Who really knows? Sometimes it's just the bowling gods keeping you humble.
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Re: Why the 8 pin?...
« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2008, 03:04:28 PM »
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Blame it on technology!  The reactive resin coverstocks have been perfected to such a degree that the ball just rips into the pocket once it hits the dry.  As many have said before, the stone 8 comes from your ball driving through the deck and kicking the 5 out a little stronger than usual.  The ball still deflects off the 5 to carry the nine, but the end result is no stike on a high flush shot into the pocket.  That can tick off even the most affable bowler.  
I bowled four games on the Scorpion yesterday with my Cell and left two stone 8s and a stone 9 in just the first 2 games.  However, I did not leave ANY 10 pins in the entire 4 game block.  I'd rather shoot at an 8 pin than a 10 pin, so I think it's a fair tradeoff...
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Re: Why the 8 pin?...
« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2008, 03:54:50 PM »
Kind of sad, but my buddy Nick Meko shot 299 with a solid 8 in the 12th ball. I yelled, thats it 300! and what else but an 8 pin.. Buried the pocket. But I guess it was okay because the very next weekend, he buried a 300 for regional play. Only wish I could of done something like that, where I had 3 279's that day.. lol. A 10 Pin that slid to the 8 1/2 spot, 9 pin, and 7 pin.. Gahh.
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Re: Why the 8 pin?...
« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2008, 04:02:03 PM »
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Blame it on technology!  The reactive resin coverstocks have been perfected to such a degree that the ball just rips into the pocket once it hits the dry.  As many have said before, the stone 8 comes from your ball driving through the deck and kicking the 5 out a little stronger than usual.  The ball still deflects off the 5 to carry the nine, but the end result is no stike on a high flush shot into the pocket.  That can tick off even the most affable bowler.  
I bowled four games on the Scorpion yesterday with my Cell and left two stone 8s and a stone 9 in just the first 2 games.  However, I did not leave ANY 10 pins in the entire 4 game block.  I'd rather shoot at an 8 pin than a 10 pin, so I think it's a fair tradeoff...


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nerdytoes

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Re: Why the 8 pin?...
« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2008, 07:33:29 PM »
i thought women digged stone 8...  hmmm
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lexlefty

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Re: Why the 8 pin?...
« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2008, 09:09:09 PM »
A little off-topic but I've always thought the 'prettiest' strikes to watch are when the last 2 pins standing are the 8 & 9 and the ball rolls off the deck splitting them.  

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The ball generally doesn't hit the 8 pin unless it is a very high shot.  THe ball contacts on 4 pins in the rack.  For a right hander it is the 1-3-5-9. Lefties 1-2-5-8

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Re: Why the 8 pin?...
« Reply #25 on: June 27, 2008, 11:01:34 AM »
I agree with Dan I would much rather shoot at an 8 or a 9 pin than a 10 pin.  

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Krakken

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Re: Why the 8 pin?...
« Reply #26 on: June 27, 2008, 12:06:34 PM »
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A little off-topic but I've always thought the 'prettiest' strikes to watch are when the last 2 pins standing are the 8 & 9 and the ball rolls off the deck splitting them.  

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The ball generally doesn't hit the 8 pin unless it is a very high shot.  THe ball contacts on 4 pins in the rack.  For a right hander it is the 1-3-5-9. Lefties 1-2-5-8

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That is a good looking shot to watch, and one of those "good Break" scenarios.  Good thing that ball continued to drive through the deck.
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DON DRAPER

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Re: Why the 8 pin?...
« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2008, 05:31:55 PM »
i left three solid 8's today in the course of 5 games. the first two looked absolutely great but the 8 pin stood. the 5 pin was pushed straight back by the ball both times. the third one was a bit odd. the 8 pin remained but the 10 pin was "chopped" down by the 6 pin. the ball appeared to deflect thru the pocket slightly instead of pushing the 5 pin straight back. i'm going to attribute this leave to the pins being slightly off spot and a lane that had not been cleaned or oiled. all three 8's were left playing 12 to 2 with my total inferno.
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