Author Topic: Where did 'Ball X doesn't match my game' come from? (Read 1415 times)

FBM357 · « **on:** September 26, 2006, 06:25:45 AM »

Seriously, before the dynamic core and cover craze came into existence, I honestly believed I could throw any ball I put in my hand! I didn't put a great deal of thought into why a certain ball didn't work, instead made the adjustment and allowed the ball to do what it was intended to do. Have we become complacent with 'shooting 10 board' or hypnotized by 'crossing as many boards as possible' to determine whether a ball works or not? Just how diverse is your game?
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DP3 · « **Reply #1 on:** September 26, 2006, 02:58:59 PM »

Like I said in another post, no matter what the condition is, we all have a subconcious view of a ball path that we want to see and try to attain on the lane. When there is a ball that goes against the motion that we're looking for or know that works for us that's when we find people saying that "Ball-X doesn't match up to my game".

For instance, I like the banana arc shape with low flare and perfer to play the friction zones of the lane. Therefore balls like "The One" or a Paradigm don't really match up well to my physical game because the physical game is something that is developed my the conditions that we bowl on and the way that we know how to score.
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kmanestor22 · « **Reply #2 on:** September 26, 2006, 03:05:38 PM »

Have you ever thrown a hook monster on scorched lanes? A plastic ball on flooded? Have you ever seen a cranker throw a ball drilled to hook out of their hand? Has a person with no hand ever asked to have a ball drill for minimum reaction? Optimum scoring happens when you match a cover, core, surface prep, and drilling to a bowler's revs, speed, tilt, and lane condtions. There are so many variables, how can one ball work for everyone on every lane condition?
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FBM357 · « **Reply #3 on:** September 26, 2006, 03:10:14 PM »

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Like I said in another post, no matter what the condition is, we all have a subconscious view of a ball path that we want to see and try to attain on the lane. When there is a ball that goes against the motion that we're looking for or know that works for us that's when we find people saying that "Ball-X doesn't match up to my game".

For instance, I like the banana arc shape with low flare and prefer to play the friction zones of the lane. Therefore balls like "The One" or a Paradigm don't really match up well to my physical game because the physical game is something that is developed my the conditions that we bowl on and the way that we know how to score.
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Hoss Central Inc.
Respect the Game

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Your points are valid and well taken, however, if we didn't have such a variety to select and only used, like the 60's and 70's, what would we do? Adjust. Case in point, bowl using only plastic. It's sure to take you out of your 'comfort zone'. But the will to overcome supercedes the thought of failing to adjust.
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FBM357 · « **Reply #4 on:** September 26, 2006, 03:17:46 PM »

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Have you ever thrown a hook monster on scorched lanes? A plastic ball on flooded? Have you ever seen a cranker throw a ball drilled to hook out of their hand? Has a person with no hand ever asked to have a ball drill for minimum reaction? Optimum scoring happens when you match a cover, core, surface prep, and drilling to a bowler's revs, speed, tilt, and lane condtions. There are so many variables, how can one ball work for everyone on every lane condition?
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I'm not stating '1 ball', but the mere fact a bowler can throw 'any' ball and score by adjusting (i.e. a batter can direct a hit ball by the timing of his swing; A pitcher can change the angle of his pitch by simply moving to another part of the rubber or altering the plane of his delivery). Just trying to understand the want of technology to overcome the much needed variable of HARD WORK, that's all.
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DP3 · « **Reply #5 on:** September 26, 2006, 03:22:27 PM »

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Your points are valid and well taken, however, if we didn't have such a variety to select and only used, like the 60's and 70's, what would we do? Adjust. Case in point, bowl using only plastic. It's sure to take you out of your 'comfort zone'. But the will to overcome supercedes the thought of failing to adjust.
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Yeah that pretty much goes along with what I said about how we develop a physical game. That is why we see guys that grew up in the 80s and were great bowlers then, but never got out of the habit of hitting up on the ball and staying directly under it, struggle with some of todays equipment because it burns up and placks. Their physical game was based on bowling on short oil with urethane balls and soft plastic. Now it's almost normal to see a player who grew up bowling post 1995 with PAP coordinates of 4" or less, because they grew up with a release that forced them to skid a ball down the lane and come back at a drastic angle.
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michelle · « **Reply #6 on:** September 26, 2006, 03:54:10 PM »

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But the will to overcome supercedes the thought of failing to adjust.

unless of course you are subbing in a mixed league and the application of oil has not been tailored to your game...oh I'm sorry, got a little off topic there

kmanestor22 · « **Reply #7 on:** September 26, 2006, 04:46:21 PM »

Sure, I could take a middle of the road ball like a Rampage and score on any condition. The original question was about hearing "why ball x doesn't match my game." I highly doubt a middle of the road ball is what the person was talking about. If the ball didn't match their game, it was probably on one extreme of the spectrum. For instance, I can't use strong sanded reactive balls on anything but the heaviest of conditions. Likewise, I can't use lower flare equipment with anything but a 3-3/8" drill because of my high track. There is condition-specific or bowler-specifc bowling balls out there. This is why you hear of something "not matching their game."
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BOWL119 · « **Reply #8 on:** October 02, 2006, 07:50:11 PM »

I know I am a little late commenting on this, but felt I needed to share this. I have a guy on my Tuesday night team that bowls with a WHITE DOT about 10years old. He averages over 200 and hooks the ball everytime he throws it. Decided that he wanted to get a new ball and bought a CROSSFIRE. tried to bowl the same way and the ball hooked too much for him. He ended up giving the ball to his son. So for him BALL X is any ball with a new coverstock and weight block.

But he complained that people now could not really bowl due to the fact that the ball they were throwing was already made to hook. I told him that maybe he could not bowl cause he could nto change his style to the new ball and dumped it.
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