Author Topic: The Hottest Ball on the Market... (Read 7073 times)

T-GOD · « **on:** December 02, 2008, 12:19:23 PM »

The BuzzBOMB Agent Orange is the real deal everyone. Hooks in oil, big backend, can use it all 3 games. http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=221698&ForumID=7&CategoryID=2 And looks hot..!! http://lane1bowling.com/whatnext/ There you have it. The hottest ball on the market. =:^D

SKIDSNAP · « **Reply #31 on:** December 03, 2008, 07:23:08 AM »

Talk about missing the boat in marketing. Agent Orange has negative connotations. How about a little research guys???

I just googled Agent Orange and the top of the list is Agent Orange Birth Defects.

Monster Pike · « **Reply #32 on:** December 03, 2008, 08:07:20 AM »

I have an old album by Agent Orange. They were like a punk/surf rock band, LOL.
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novawagonmaster · « **Reply #33 on:** December 03, 2008, 08:15:21 AM »

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I agree, I touched my friends Agent Orange and it certainly felt warmer than his Cell.
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Necromancer · « **Reply #34 on:** December 03, 2008, 08:16:31 AM »

If these balls were so great, you'd see more on tour. The fact is that all Lane #1 balls are designed around the same core. The L1's I have tried have been no different than any other ball from any other company. L1's IMO are overpriced, inconsistent (you really need to release it perfectly to have it react correctly), and overrated.

L1 needs to get one thing through their thick heads: any bowler looking to score high on any PBA pattern or anything other than a house shot DOES NOT WANT a ball that hooks all over the lane and has crazy backend.

Also the videos of Lane #1 suck. If you are going to advertise for a product, at least make it look good. Most videos I have seen, look like the ball is tossed by some 180 average bowler.
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Juggernaut · « **Reply #35 on:** December 03, 2008, 08:18:20 AM »

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i know I will get slammed for this, but this is indeed the hottest ball on the market,

Not a slam, but, isn't the hottest ball a matter of personal opinion?

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outhooks the venom, the playmker, the nvd whatever you want to throw,

Not everyone wants a ball that hooks that much, do they?

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I will put this ball up against anything for three games in a row and feel confident in saying it will perform better then anything you want to throw,

O.K., it works great for you, we get that. Here on our condition, a pearl avalanche works great with just a little surface.

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you dont have to loft the cap to ride the oil, beleive me,

I would like to, but you don't bowl here, so you don't know what it takes to score here

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I got plenty of hand to loft the cap and dont have to get much inside of 4th arrow by the third game. and when that right side is toasted up and you have to go deeper then 4th arrow rest assured this ball will handle the task at hand

Why would I spens $250 to move inside the fourth arrow ( a place that I don't really like ) when I can spend $150 and play the second/third arrows and score well with the avalanche?

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Ive got guys in league that are straight rollers, put this in their hand and they look like tommy jones, it moves that effortlessly.

THEY WENT BALD?

J/K, couldn't help myself. But seriously, it isn't everyones aspiration to "look like Tommy Jones" when bowling. Yeah, the hook ball looks great, but that isn't always what scores.

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the ironic part is its not snappy as heck, its a controlled bend but it comes back from a loooooooog way

Good thing it's controllable. If it is covering that many boards, there is a lot of room for error and being controllable is going to help

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F.O.S Loud, F.O.S. Proud

Lane #1 Baby

Maybe your signature explains much about your liking the ball?

This reply IS NOT a slam or an attempt to degrade or berate you or the ball. It is just an attempt to say that not EVERYONE wants a ball like the Agent Orange, and many of those who might try it, won't due to its prohibitive price range.

Think of it like this. All the fish in the world weigh five pounds and I can buy ten pound test line for $10. Now, someone comes along with twenty pound test line for $25. I can catch just as many fish with the $10 line that I can with the $25 line, so why do I need that extra expense?

Bowling balls have gotten to the point where MOST OF THEM are nothing but overkill. Why generate 1,000,000 joules of energy when 100,000 is all I need to strike? ( these numbers were just "pulled out of my butt" as an example of what I am thinking as I have no idea how many joules it would actually take to strike )

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the SI unit of work or energy, defined to be the work done by a force of one newton acting to move an object through a distance of one meter in the direction in which the force is applied. Equivalently, since kinetic energy is one half the mass times the square of the velocity, one joule is the kinetic energy of a mass of two kilograms moving at a velocity of 1 m/s. This is the same as 107 ergs in the CGS system, or approximately 0.737 562 foot-pound in the traditional English system. In other energy units, one joule equals about 9.478 170 x 10-4 Btu, 0.238 846 (small) calories, or 2.777 778 x 10-4 watt hour. The joule is named for the British physicist James Prescott Joule (1818-1889), who demonstrated the equivalence of mechanical and thermal energy in a famous experiment in 1843. Although Joule pronounced his name "jowl", the unit is usually pronounced "jool" or "jew'l".
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novawagonmaster · « **Reply #36 on:** December 03, 2008, 08:19:39 AM »

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Quick question...if you're comfort zone is around 2nd to 3rd arrow and you can strike with any of the entry level balls on THS why would you want to move the 4th arrow out of your comfort zone even to open up the lane? Does anyone really think you are going to hit a deep inside line consistently to use a ball that hooks at your feet?
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I've come to the same conclusion recently. I am much more comfortable using weak equipment up the track as opposed to going coast to coast with strong equipment. Hooking the ball looks nice, but it only takes a slight error in speed or hand position to wind up with a designer split. I'd rather shoot a few ten pins than have to throw at 2-8-10s, 7-10s, and 4-9s all night. I have reserved playing deep for time when it is just not possible to play straighter.
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rackattack · « **Reply #37 on:** December 03, 2008, 09:31:02 AM »

If reviews on this site are an indicator we have..
Cell--> 65 reviews
Cell Pearl--> 62 reviews
Diminsion--> 45 reviews
Viritual Gravity--> 12 reviews
Sauce--> 6 reviews
and drumroll.....
Agent Orange--> 2 reviews

Now thats HOT
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Brickguy221 · « **Reply #38 on:** December 03, 2008, 09:54:05 AM »

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Think of it like this. All the fish in the world weigh five pounds and I can buy ten pound test line for $10. Now, someone comes along with twenty pound test line for $25. I can catch just as many fish with the $10 line that I can with the $25 line, so why do I need that extra expense?

You are going to catch more fish with the 20# line because with 5# fish and structure in the water, there is better than a 50-50 chance that some of the 5# fish will break your 10# line.

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novawagonmaster · « **Reply #39 on:** December 03, 2008, 11:16:28 AM »

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Wasn't Nova a huge Lane#1 fan???
A ball is great for anyone who matches up to it...

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JessN16 · « **Reply #40 on:** December 03, 2008, 11:33:37 AM »

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High series of the night on our 22-team league, by the way, was the guy one pair to my left who shot between 750-780 with a Buzzbomb/R. So keep laughing, folks.

Jess

I will laugh because I have seen 3 800's this year at 3 different houses, not only were none of them with Lane#1 stuff, but all 3 were Roto Grip. 2 Cell Pearls and a Pluto.

Great that Lane1 works for you, but my bet is if you tried Ebonite, Storm or Roto, and gave them a serious shot you would get better value for your money, and a better quality ball.

I had a Super Carbide Bomb and that thing was a POS. Biggest waste of $230 ever. I could have gotten 2 Roto Grip balls for that.

BTW hottest ball means they are selling like hotcakes. Only reason you can't find that ball is most pro shops don't carry Lane1 equipment because it doesn't see.

Hottest ball on the market right now is the Cell Pearl, with the Virtual Gravity right on it's heels.
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My point was, and is, that there isn't a "best ball company." There IS a "best ball company for ME," or for you, or whoever. We're fortunate these days that everyone who is pouring balls is putting out hyper-quality stuff. So it basically comes down to matchup.

You missed where I said I had used Storm as my primary ball company for about 12 years. Storm's covers, for me, have always been more angular than most, and I've reached a point in my physical game where angular is not what I need for the conditions I typically see. However, I used a Storm Power Agent this week in league, and I always carry a couple of Storm pieces with me to tournaments, particularly when I'm bowling on a low-friction surface and need the help. I also used a Roto ball this week.

The people around here that benefit from Lane #1 stuff typically are the ones who prefer a heavier roll and don't need a lot of help getting to the pocket. Three of our top 10 averages right now on our league are guys throwing Lane #1 stuff, which is a pretty high percentage given that Lane #1 is fairly rare here in Alabama.

Lane #1 isn't magic, but neither is Storm, Roto, Ebonite, Brunswick, MoRich or anyone else. However, it also isn't crap -- and neither is Storm, Roto, Ebonite, Brunswick, etc., etc.

Jess

burly1 · « **Reply #41 on:** December 03, 2008, 11:39:55 AM »

Bingo- we have a winner!!!!^^^^^^^
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Juggernaut · « **Reply #42 on:** December 03, 2008, 11:42:48 AM »

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Think of it like this. All the fish in the world weigh five pounds and I can buy ten pound test line for $10. Now, someone comes along with twenty pound test line for $25. I can catch just as many fish with the $10 line that I can with the $25 line, so why do I need that extra expense?

You are going to catch more fish with the 20# line because with 5# fish and structure in the water, there is better than a 50-50 chance that some of the 5# fish will break your 10# line.
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NOT if you know how to catch a fish using the proper technique.

Now, if you just want to use raw power and yank the fish out of the water by brute force, that's different.

I prefer to use proper technique.

And cheaper line

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Edited on 12/3/2008 12:43 PM

scotts33 · « **Reply #43 on:** December 03, 2008, 11:51:44 AM »

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NOT if you know how to catch a fish using the proper technique. Now, if you just want to use raw power and yank the fish out of the water by brute force, that's different.

I prefer to use proper technique. And cheaper line

My preferred technique for fish getting is a concussion hand grenade a big dip net.

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Juggernaut · « **Reply #44 on:** December 03, 2008, 12:38:50 PM »

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NOT if you know how to catch a fish using the proper technique. Now, if you just want to use raw power and yank the fish out of the water by brute force, that's different.

I prefer to use proper technique. And cheaper line

My preferred technique for fish getting is a concussion hand grenade a big dip net.
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YOU ANIMAL!

Sounds like the AO might be what you're looking for.

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burly1 · « **Reply #45 on:** December 03, 2008, 02:03:50 PM »

T-GOD is pretty smart, he can make one little remark about a new ball, and all you guys are on it quicker than flies on a backyard biscuit, and three more threads start up, and can get 50+ replies to this one alone!! You can't buy this kind of exposure!
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