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punkrawk77

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The House Shot
« on: January 09, 2004, 09:06:45 AM »
I was reading some articles on WalterRay.com. This is the article

http://www.walterray.com/press/1994/wrplay_1_94.html

In the article he states: Most `house shots' will give you a fairly easy strike line in the area between the second and third arrows (10th and 15th boards). That's too easy. You learn bad habits when you play a strike line that will allow imperfect shots to make it back to the pocket.

I was playing the 13th board early this week at one alley. I did that because the outside line from the gutter to the 10th board was so dry no matter what I did the ball would hook to the brooklyn side.

Last night I was playing the 14th board at a different bowling alley than previous in the week. On some throws i would be just a little bit off, maybe hit the 13th board or 15th board. On some of those shots i came up a smidget high on the head pin and i was getting nasty splits. I was coming up a hair low on the head pin and it was still leaving nasty splits.

I could see if i hit the headpin dead on that i would get nasty splits. Maybe it was just luck of the draw?

But back to the article Walter Ray says playing the 10-15 boards is too easy. It is easy i guess, but i was just a hair off on some of those shots and it was leaving horrible splits. So maybe he isn't right.

What everyone think?

 

SrKegler

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Re: The House Shot
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2004, 09:02:15 AM »
I would have to agree with WRW.  In a normal year I would guess I hit about 20 different houses.  Every house has basically the same shot.  Minimal oil outside the 10 board.  Usually the only difference is in the length of the pattern.

Since you don’t have a profile, can’t really comment for sure on why you were having split problems.

If you were only missing your target by one board and was leaving splits, you were definitely playing the wrong part of the lane, probably were playing right on the oil line.  A miss right will catch the dry too early and cause the ball to jump high.  Miss left keeps you in the oil too long for the ball to recover.

What is more important is the breakpoint and the angles you were playing.  

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Re: The House Shot
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2004, 10:25:06 AM »
Nope, I see it happen every nite on our leagues.  

Most houses I've ran into run either a 7-7 or a 10-10 block, usually only have 3 units outside.

He didn't give much information other than the target so I'll use the situation at house.

Pattern is a top hat, 38' buffed to 42', 3 units outside of 10 board.

Lets say his perfect shot is cross the arrows at 13, hit 9 at the breakpoint of 42'.

Next shot, he misses right, hits 11 at the arrows.  The ball will now catch the dry, probably around 38' on the 7 board.  In this case, the ball will hook early and jump high on him.

3rd shot, he hits 15 at the arrows, 13 at the breakpoint. Now he's playing in the heavier part of the oil Ball will be in the longer part of the tophat oil and will probably either leave a washout or 4-5-7 or similar.

Wish I could draw a diagram to help explain it a little more.  I've tried explaining to the houses that when they put those 10 dry boards to the right, they've pretty much taken 1/2 the lane away from us.  Todays equipment reacts so fast and hard off of the dry.
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Re: The House Shot
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2004, 11:17:20 AM »
Had to edit the post, did have it backwards the first time.  Thanks for catching it.

We have this problem on my Thursday nite league.  Guys just can't comprehend moving their 2d target.  One of my bowlers keeps the same target (12 board) at the arrows and keeps moving his feet left, continually comes in high.  Complains that he getting the ball out to the 5, can't go any further right.  Can't seem to get it thru his head that there is a difference between the 5 at 30 ft and the 5 at 40 foot.
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punkrawk77

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Re: The House Shot
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2004, 05:34:16 PM »
I am a righty.

Playing the 10 to 15 board area earlier in the week I was getting a lot of strikes. I tried playing the 2nd arrow and the 1st arrow and all areas in between. It was so dry on the right side that i had to come inside. Later in the week at a different alley. I was coming up a little low or little high and getting lots of splits.

Lots of 4-6 splits and 6-7-10 splits. I was hitting the pocket but only off by the smallest margin(tiny margin). You would think you'd still get a strike or leave a single pin spare, but was coming up with splits.

Thursday, i was watching the league before hand and a lot of people were shooting for the 10-15 boards.

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Re: The House Shot
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2004, 05:37:28 PM »
I usually play boards 5-10, but for some reason that right side was so dry. My ball was hooking way off target. I tried to throw faster so the ball wouldn't break as much and it still didn't work.  Thus i went more inside to 10-15 boards.

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Re: The House Shot
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2004, 08:29:00 PM »
Sawbones, is there more oil in the middle? Was I doing the right thing by moving left and throwing near the 3rd arrow?  Those outside boards were so dry and my urethane ball was hooking like crazy. I was getting strikes, but they were brooklyn strikes.

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Re: The House Shot
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2004, 09:15:22 PM »
I always bowl right after leagues get out, no matter where i go. So maybe the outside is bound to be very dry.