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The Life of a lefty
« on: July 15, 2003, 02:01:18 AM »
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Re: The Life of a lefty
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2003, 05:11:46 PM »
agreed, it would be impossible to lock out right handers. and i do agree left handers in alot of cases have it very easy, but there are some cases that right handers wont experience that we have to deal with, which i have stated above.
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Re: The Life of a lefty
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2003, 05:17:25 PM »
there was once a guy, years ago i heard stories about him. He was a big time right handed jackpot bowler in the area. Cranked the ball up more than anyone around, all he did was rag on left handers, his reputation was known all around for his hatred of lefties. what happened to this guy? He had me for a son, a left handed kid. Boy do the left handers now have a field day when they see me bowl, left handed, they tell him their surprised he didn't just kill me and try again, thats how bad he ragged on em. Needless to say hes lightened up over the years

and it does prove god does have a sense of humor
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Re: The Life of a lefty
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2003, 05:23:39 PM »
i agree terminator very much. Alot of times we do have it made, except freak left handers like me who decided hey i know lets crank the ball and take all that advantage away. but thats another story.

I'm not saying left handers dont have it made alot of the times, i was just saying some of the things we have to deal with which really suck balls.
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Re: The Life of a lefty
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2003, 05:30:52 PM »
The things brought out by Ragner is why they call Lefties "Wrongsiders."
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Re: The Life of a lefty
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2003, 07:20:57 PM »
The grass is always greener……. On the other side of the lane.

No one knows what the other side puts up with so it’s an impossible argument.

Can’t lock out the right-handers? Watch me I could do it in a heartbeat.

What happened at the tournament isn’t right but he only pissed off 10% of the population not the other 90% who are right handed.

And there are reasons that left handers win a disproportionate  number of ABC masters, PBA majors, and PBA tournaments and it isn’t because they are better bowlers.

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Re: The Life of a lefty
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2003, 07:34:01 PM »
Guy round here did a similar thing about a year ago for a tournament. Shot was a longer pattern, but not soup. However he purposely soaked the left side, while putting down a normal amount of oil on the right side. Lefties who have hand (me for one) were playing straight up 10-12 with slow speed and barely got the ball into the 1-2. When we did, the ball hit like junk and did not carry anything. Needless to say, no lefty was in the top 20 as well. This year, same tournament, everybody said it was to be the same shot, so 1 lefty bowled in it....he once again didnt come close to cashing. As a lefty, I feel its a no-win situation. Put everybody on a wall, lefties carry everything, lefties have the world, lefties dont know how to adjust. On an "easier" tournament pattern, left side doesnt break down at all, lefties are carrying everything, lefties always win. All that whining comes from....you guessed it....righties. If you looked at the general bowling population, 90% of the bowlers are right handed, so of course a good shot will hold longer for a lefty. On the flipside, a hard shot will hurt longer for a lefty. When righties will be putting up honor scores on a wide open shot (after a few games of course), lefties will still be struggling to shoot 190. In our area, majority of the top bowlers around here are righties, most of the honor scores shot are from righties, high avg's are mostly righties, tournament winners are majority right handers, but yet lefties get all the hassle because they sent a head pin cross the deck and tripped a 7 pin. Example, I bowl a righty in my scratch league, same shot on both sides, we have the same avg. Everything is as "equal as possible" for this example. We start the game, I hit the pocket and strike, he hits the pocket and leaves a corner. Comment mumbled "damn lefties carry everything...". 3 frames later, I go high and get a break tripping out a split, leaving only a 4 pin. Righty carries a sloopy wall shot. Comment heard from lefty "what the hell was that?" 10th frame comes around, in a real close match, and I go double and then on the fill ball sne da messenger across and take out the 7 pin to striek out and shoot 220. Righty comment "lucky break". He gets up, leaves a 10 pin on the first ball, loses the game, comes over to me, says nice game, then mumbles to himself "lefty carried everything to win that one". My buddy (an AMF rep as well) told me the other day he would rather be a decent lefty than a good righty. Pretty much sums it up. Everybody thinks lefties have this imaginary advantage which usually is a disadvantage. Wheres all the righties to go off on this one? Or are they still trying to figure out how this lefty tripped to 7-10 out....
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Re: The Life of a lefty
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2003, 01:43:51 AM »
I recall a situation back several months ago, when we had 7 righties and 3 lefties on the same pair of lanes.  The lefties started chopping each other's shot apart, and they all got lost because of the heavier traffic on the left side of the lane.  I couldn't help but be amused by watching them struggling, rather than having a shot all to themselves.

I'm not down on lefties at all, but it does get interesting when you get several lefties on the same pair of lanes!

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Re: The Life of a lefty
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2003, 01:58:51 AM »
I have always said that when lefties have a shot, they've got it made, 'cause nobody's messing with their shot. HOWEVER - when they DON'T have a shot, they're in trouble, CAUSE NOBODY'S MESSING WITH THEIR SHOT!!!

In other words, when it's good, it's really, really good, and when it's bad, it's horrid!!!

And - I was in a situation recently where they DID shut the righties out. Tournament shot, medium long oil. 4 games play, 3 man teams. Break for lunch, oil the heads - don't drag anything else. I was bowling with a couple of the BEST bowlers I know, both righties. They shot 552, 549. I shot 550. The lefty team won the tournament - one shot 805 for three.  Oh - in case anyone is wondering - one of the righties is one of the 5 900 series holders....

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Re: The Life of a lefty
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2003, 01:59:13 AM »
I’ve given this a lot of thought.  Well, at least a couple of minutes.  From time to time I’ve been known to rile a few lefty’s, especially the whiney ones.

I have the best of both worlds though.  I was a lefty before I started school.  Teachers couldn’t teach me to write left handed so I had to use my right.  Therefore I have all the luck of a lefty with all the skill of a righty. My team mates want me to change my screen name to ICE (I carry everything).

Anyhow, back to the topic.  I have to agree that left handed bowlers usually aren’t given credit for their skill level.  Every honor score shot by a lefty entailed a lot of luck.  Of course the right hand honor scores were all flush shots.

Things must be a little different around my area, percentage wise, the lefties seem to cash just as often as the righties.  You can say all you want about the advantages on either side of the lane but it still boils down to who makes the fewest errors over a 10 game block.

Of course you lefties would always switch and learn to bowl right handed if things are that bad on your side of the lane.

Personally, if I hit a tournament where none of the lefties had a decent shot, I would just boycott that one.  

Bottom line, good bowling is just that.  Right, left, male, female.

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Re: The Life of a lefty
« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2003, 02:36:17 AM »
Yea i have to agree we dont have to deal with breaking down conditions a lot but like leftside said both of the houses i mainly bowl at are right handed houses..The kid that has high average is what? Righty..Second highest? Lefty..
I get very irritated because this kid is good yes..But  ( not trying to brag) i think i have just as much talent but average a little bit less..He has thrown 2 300s but like leftside said he has like 10-15 boards of room..He tugged it it held if he sent it out it cam back and mixed the pins around..He averages around 215-220 or so..Me i average around 200-205..If i pull it it goes through the nose.If i send it out it leaves me with the rail..I have like 5 boards of room maybe..Am i correct leftside?

Im glad you made this post because i can now vent but leftys dont always have it easy..
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Re: The Life of a lefty
« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2003, 02:41:46 AM »
One quick question, never bowled on the wrong side of the lanes.  Everyone talks about the area us righties have.

Every house pattern I've seen is symetrical from left to right.  Why do us righties have so much more room?  Your side has to be smoother than ours due to less play.

Are us righties are a little more versatile, have a better match up on the lanes with equipment.

Tournaments may be a little different but even most of them now use a typical house shot.
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Re: The Life of a lefty
« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2003, 03:11:56 AM »
SrKegler, doesn't the reverse also hold true?  If it is so good on the left side of the lane, wouldn't more right handers switch to left handed?
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Re: The Life of a lefty
« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2003, 03:38:32 AM »
Good question CB.  I have no desire to shoot left handed just because that side is so easy.  

Since there are so few lefties, why don't they switch to the right side of the lane.  Sure would eliminate a lot of their whining, they would never be shut out.

Since you seem like a "nice" lefty, how about answering the question.  Why don't lefties have the same area as the righties.  Pattern is identical.


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Re: The Life of a lefty
« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2003, 07:01:55 AM »
I wrote a little ditty on here called "Right handed heaven".

It says it all, not as well as mumzie said it but it says it all.

Last night I watched a lefty friend of mine warm up before a league with his righty wife.

Him with a Mutant, she with a Scout reactive.  She had about 10 boards of backend, he had about 3!  He's got twice the hand!

What ticks me off is most of the leagues we are in are single match play.
Many a night I have watched have had opponents with 8 to 10 revs have 5 boards of area and 10 to 15 inches of backend while me a bigger handed thrower than them have 2 boards of area and 3 inches of backend with much stronger balls.

The one throws a 5-10 or two and you just know you're in for a long night.

And it's not gonna change!  In for 3 hours of struggling to working hard to break 190 while your opponent has a chance at 230 every game.

Every where I go I see backend for righties it is just a question whether they can control it or if they have head oil at all.(Important questions admittedly).

Right now it is 6 years and one lefty threw a 300 in "Righty heaven".
No 800s in that time frame!  Yet they are a small minority, who cares!

As a result of this when I'm serious about my game I always bowl at "Righty heaven" to keep average under control and to build mental toughness.  Then I get in the car and drive to "lefty heaven" about 1/2 hour up the road!

REgards,

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PS I talked to the high average lefty in our league last fall and asked him how he did it.  222 average 18 pins behind the high righty!  And 15 pins ahead of all the lefties in the house.  He didn't give me much. But he did make it clear to me that he felt his 16 pound ball was an advantage on the wet backends we face, and he also uses a Spirit in the house which is very even in its movements to prevent the house 7 pin.  (His 16 pound version of the Spirit is the low RG pearl particle version).
PPS What I'm seeing is Wet, Wet, and Wetter, most places I bowl anymore!
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