Author Topic: wrist devices (Read 5093 times)

slickboobie · « **on:** January 06, 2004, 07:08:15 PM »

I've decided to use a wrist device to keep my wrist in the proper positon during delivery and was wondering which devices do other bowlers use, which one do you like, or dislike and why.

thanks

omegabowler · « **Reply #31 on:** January 08, 2004, 02:06:10 PM »

lets see..

low rg cores help the revless get more revs. advantage? yes! talent? No!
braces help consistency release. advantage? yes talent? no!
blocked lanes? advantage? yes? talent? no

braces keep your wrist locked. advantage? No

hitting the same spot on the lane at the same speed using all of the above?

advantage? NO! talent yes!

Grip, proper drilling, flair, pin placement, ball surface prep.....

so there are a lot of reasons that you can score 200 and everything in the bag is a crutch.

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no1bucsfan · « **Reply #32 on:** January 08, 2004, 02:50:27 PM »

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lets see..

low rg cores help the revless get more revs. advantage? yes! talent? No!
braces help consistency release. advantage? yes talent? no!
blocked lanes? advantage? yes? talent? no

None of this matters if you can't release the ball correctly.

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braces keep your wrist locked. advantage? No

THen why use them if not needed medically?

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Regardless though, when they were referred to as crutches-- that is a correct statement. It's not a slam but those of who use them should be able to admit they are a crutch. It's not a different way to bowl, it's a way to help make your release consistent without having to do any other type of work. More power to you if you want to use them, but they are crutches. Use what's best for your game but don't get defensive when the truth is spelled out.

THank you. That's all I was trying to say, over and over and over again.
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omegabowler · « **Reply #33 on:** January 08, 2004, 03:24:58 PM »

didn't read all of it did you?

counter point made when I said

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hitting the same spot on the lane at the same speed using all of the above?

advantage? NO! talent yes!

I said this

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braces keep your wrist locked. advantage? No

Until you have mastered a release and be consistent with it, you do not know what you are giving up in subtle split second adjustments for a poor swing/timing.

do you need to? maybe, maybe not. under the scenario of a bowler with a brace:
he will have to learn to be better in the swing plane to hit his mark every time.

let me explain this to you , I have been there done that. without a brace on you don't necessarily do it perfect every time you have the advantage of making up for small imperfections. this is an entire skill set that must be learned. so with out the brace on and my normal high rev release I can start with a medium amount of cupped wrist. if I tug it. I can weaken my wrist at release point and let it slide more. there are other things I was able to due. but that is another story.

no, a brace bowler doesn't have that adjustment. he has to be more consistent in the swing path because if you tug it with a brace you can't kill it. if your on tough lanes you can watch it hit the seven. so with no brace ,means more talent at release point is needed. with a brace better swing path is needed.

the only real people I see with this kind of talent to do both are some top notch amateurs and PBA PRo's.

that accounts for about 2% of bowlers. do still think that an amateur asking about a brace dose not need one unless he is crippled?

if it is your( including all crutch believers)personal goal an judgement for yourself that you don't need it. then that is a great goal to have IMO.

But I don't think that advice serves the needs of those that don't have that idealistic goal. you are preaching your beliefs and not giving instruction advice.

let's take your fist statement:

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Is there a medical condition that you have that makes you need the brace? If not, then why use it? would you walk on crutches if you didn't have to?

you asked if it was medical. that fine then you go into "I'm better than you mode" with the rest of your statement.

you never asked if he is going to turn pro, enter tournaments, takes lessons, practices 3 hours a day at it. you don't even know if he just has a weak wrist or an untrained one. you don't know his style? maybe he is a cranker and is better served with learning to stroke the ball? don't know.

so my whole line is to open up the spectrum here and say there is a difference between giving advice and giving demeaning preaching.

either you see it or you don't.
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Edited on 1/8/2004 4:31 PM

no1bucsfan · « **Reply #34 on:** January 08, 2004, 05:35:28 PM »

Omega, omega, omega,

How many times do I have to tell you that what I said was my opinion, and not a fact. If you felt demeaned by what I said, maybe you should think about why you feel that way, and not who made you feel that way.

If you wear a brace for medical reasons, more power to you, at least you are still bowling.

If you wear one to give yourself confidence, o.k., whatever works for ya. I guess it's better than carrying a giant pink stuffed teddy bear.

If you wear one because you cant release the ball properly, and want something that can do it for you without learning how to do it yourself, fine, whatever floats your boat.

It's that simple, I have given my opinion one more time. Repeated myself one more time. It's getting old now, so can we drop it.

If I hurt anyone's feelings about wearing their wrist braces when they don't need them, then I am sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo sorry that you felt demeaned by a bowler with a 130 average.

I'm done.
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Steven · « **Reply #35 on:** January 08, 2004, 06:13:08 PM »

Leftside: I think we are in basic agreement. The irony of the whole wrist brace usage issue is that when all is said and done, they provide little real value.

Whatever benefit you get from additional release consistency, you lose in release flexibility. There are times when simply switching balls is not the answer, and that can be real frustrating.

Medical problems or not, there are times when I need flexibility, so I simply take the brace off (which I can do for short periods). I had to do it last night to save the set. Come to think of it, I can't think of the last tournament where I kept a brace on for the total duration.

Just remember the next time you see someone with a brace, they're not getting the benefits many believe exist. If it's their version of a security blanket (for whatever reason), let them enjoy -- if they're going against you, that brace will not be the difference between a win and a loss.

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TheBowlingKid25 · « **Reply #36 on:** January 08, 2004, 07:19:44 PM »

Mine lets me be able to bowl. To me it is INVALUABLE! Stupid tendonitis.

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