If a high rev player can square up enough initially until they open up, they deserve to score.

I agree 100% with this statement.

Hi tech cores arent the problem, nor are 2 handers.  The problem is that high friction shells blow up any lane pattern too quickly.   Advancements in oils havent been able to combat sanded, or even box condition resin shells. 

It was literally impossible to "open them up" for the past two years at USBC Nationals. Why? The oil. Pros are able to open up their patterns because they have 2-3x the revolutions of us league bowlers and they can hit a spot 2-3x smaller than we can with 2-3x the accuracy.

The overwhelming majority of bowlers can't repeat the same shot, with enough revrate to breakdown the thicker oils on these tough patterns that are used for these tournaments.

If you get down to the sole root of the complaints that bowlers have with the game being "too easy" or "unfair cause of two handers and equipment", it's always anecdotal. There's plenty of places you can choose to bowl where it's not easy. Even if you were to establish an average for 21 games then seek out tournaments as a weekend warrior.

But it's a lot easier to put the blame on people who are scoring at ease than it is to accept that you physically cannot do what it takes to be an elite player. Whether that's putting 600rpms on it, or splitting hairs like Barnes & Duke.

The biggest benefit to easier patterns is all the friction on the edges that makes people much better spare shooters than what they really are. Guys don't even look at anything for left side spares, just slow down, wind up on it and let the lane guide it to the pins on the left. For the 3, 6, 9, & 10 pin, just move accordingly and chuck it to the right. If you miss a little, added friction "squares up" your ball for the corner pins. If you miss a left, the puddle in the middle gives you 5 more feet of skid before your ball sees the lane.

....but that's a whole new can of worms that nobody wants to admit to/talk about

I understand the goal for everyone isn't to be an elite player, but it should be to have fun. Usually when humans don't find something fun anymore, they quit doing it and move onto something else. It just gets so F'N old hearing people complain for 10-20-30-40-60+ years of how little they enjoy the game.

I understand all of your plights and gripes with the game, I really do... It's just that this self-loathing bowler shtick does nothing but drive away the bowlers who can't stand to be around the negativity. About 90% of my friends that I've had for the past 15 years are competitive high-level bowlers that weekend warrior 30+ weeks a year in addition to 2-4 leagues a week. They don't share the attitudes of the people who are complaining the most about "what's wrong with the game". They just shoe up and fill frames.

Look everywhere and you'll find that some of the biggest complainers are barely participants.

If blowing up the pattern is such a problem why isn't using low flare, urethane, or plastic to alter the pattern considered the same problem? At the end of the day it still falls under pattern integrity which is a huge reason for this change by USBC.

Pattern integrity also is affected by surface. Taking 180 grit to a less flaring ball that doesn't have a huge flare increasing weight hole will still allow the bowlers to put a hole in the pattern. Plenty of bowlers working together at nationals with a lot of surface on one ball for just that reason. Along with others using plastic etc to push the oil where needed.

USBC said the rules changes wouldn't affect scores, only hope to help with pattern integrity.......which must be house shots since the majority of the sanctioning body only bowls on their regular house shot and nothing else. I guess now I will call my house shot a "league pattern" or "league condition" to sound more sport compliant.

Hi tech cores arent the problem, nor are 2 handers.  The problem is that high friction shells blow up any lane pattern too quickly.   Advancements in oils havent been able to combat sanded, or even box condition resin shells.  Polyester shells, or even urethane at 4000 grit would force players to play the pattern initially, rather than blow it up.  If a high rev player can square up enough initially until they open up, they deserve to score.

The PWBA tour don't blow patterns up near as fast as the PBA tour, using the same equipment and just as much, if not more surface. That's just a fact.

Their rev rates don't force them in near as much, leveling of the depletion throughout the lane.

Using the two handed style creates more players using a higher rev rate than what people would have if they had to take the time to learn to curve it a lot traditionally. It's like finding a cheat code for a video game to take you to level 20 in an instant.

People have "pattern integrity" complaints like every time they bowl, it's US Open burn squad cause theirs a two hander in the building. Most of the two hander hate I see comes from the fact that they have it "easier" when the lanes are tighter/wetter because they can rely on hook at the end of the pattern where the average player "max's out" at a point on the lanes where they can no longer go left, for righties, and still get the ball to hook and finish like the two handers.

Throw in the fact that the average two hander in 2018 is about 17-24 years old, still has their youth, weighs about 130-140lbs soaking set, and you have a huge ego bruise to the "REAL MEN" who drove their truck to league, hate iPhones, and millenials (who they confuse with the Gen-Z'ers who they actually have a problem with).

50% real issues......100% ego bruising........this is the controversy around hate for two handed bowling. (I am guilty of this as well)

Its getting old reading people complain about 2 handers. Move on, smile... life is too short

It's almost the same as someone that's using a conventional grip complaining about people using just their finger tips. Buncha cheaters.

It's almost the same as someone that's using a conventional grip complaining about people using just their finger tips. Buncha cheaters.

Exactly. Male bowlers treat their speed/rev rate & like "D-size" and the figurative "Penis Envy" is real. It's a huge ego bruise to these men watching some 120lb kid fire nuclear bombs down the lane at 18mph, 575 rpms and sending 4 messengers a game. It's not about "cheating", it's about feeling inferior.