Post by: future155 on May 05, 2004, 08:14:01 AM
Post by: michelle on May 05, 2004, 11:46:45 PM
Fried heads with soup on the back ends, pins deliberately off-spt, no dots or arrows to work with...
I would say do a search back about a year, but the powers that be took that option away by deleting alot of good material.
180-190 across should get you some cash back.
Post by: Strider on May 06, 2004, 02:15:58 AM
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Post by: SrKegler on May 06, 2004, 10:06:00 AM
No dots or arrows on the lane, they cover the heads with grey guardian to hide the markings. Poles are put up between the lanes to give the same effect the old above ground ball returns had.
Pins are old and really chewed up, 2-3 pins in each rack are deliberately set off spot.
Score of 1600 will either give you a very large check or win the tournament.
Best equipment to take is plastic and urethane.
Thongprincess is a glutton for punishment, we're going to shoot it sometime in August.
If you only bowl 1 tournament a year, this is the one to make it too. Most fun I've ever had shooting sub 100s.
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Post by: livespive on May 06, 2004, 10:26:48 AM
You will have to shoot me some info on it,
and I will meet you and TP overthere when you bowl.
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Post by: SrKegler on May 06, 2004, 10:31:52 AM
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Post by: SrKegler on May 06, 2004, 10:46:29 AM
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Post by: livespive on May 06, 2004, 10:50:41 AM
I might reshoot the Hoinkie also. 734 S, 579 D Not bad but Iwant to try
again. IT will be good to see the ones I have seen before, and meet a few new
ones.
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Post by: rollingthunder on May 06, 2004, 10:57:12 AM
pins offspot, different weight pins, ball damage, etc...
Oil conditions are different on each lane and go from
bone dry to ice. In my opinion its a big waste of time
and money.
Post by: michelle on May 06, 2004, 11:07:01 AM
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I bowled in it twice and will never again until the next time around.
As to your other comments of...Broken pins,
pins offspot, different weight pins, ball damage, etc...
Oil conditions are different on each lane and go from
bone dry to ice. In my opinion its a big waste of time
and money...
I've not seen anyone with ball damage at the current location of the event. The offspot and off-weight pins coupled with the challenge presented by trying to read the lanes and figure out which pair is the dead-walled pair are precisely why most still go to shoot the event. If it was a complete waste of time, you wouldn't see tour players and a good number of the Midwest Region players shoot it year after year. If you can figure it out, there is some nice money to be made.
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Post by: ThongPrincess on May 06, 2004, 12:28:54 PM
As I have told my friends, I am a bowlaholic and have not been able to find a 12 step program. So, I will just keep feeding my adiction
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Post by: livespive on May 06, 2004, 02:38:31 PM
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Post by: SrKegler on May 06, 2004, 02:43:19 PM
BTW Future 155, sorry to have hijacked your thread. You'll love the experience.
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Post by: livespive on May 06, 2004, 03:00:33 PM
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Lumberjack is even tougher. 5# solid pins. Just like lanes 71-72 at the Hoinke except you bowl a series instead of trying to string 6 strikes.If you've never seen a lily, just wait a couple of minutes.
BTW Future 155, sorry to have hijacked your thread. You'll love the experience.
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Yeah I did those over the weekend, it was a treat. Didn't strike once,
although I think I might have figured it out at least from a physics stand point. I'll have to try and see if it works.
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Post by: future155 on May 06, 2004, 03:07:13 PM
i've heard some of the things you guys are talking about from the people ill be traveling with. i just wanted to get all the information possible. the guy thats running this trip has been going for 31 years. so i guess he loves bowling too.
i dont know how true it is but, i was told from someone that somebody who was on the tour went to the petersen and had about 8000 in bets they would beat 150 their first game and , they shot a 97 and lost all their bets. i have no idea how true it is but that is something i was told.
Post by: future155 on May 06, 2004, 03:12:18 PM
Post by: DP3 on May 06, 2004, 03:12:24 PM
I don't ssee why people are so hesitant to go back to throwing it straight as a dart at the pocket with 0 side tilt/rotation. He'll i'd bowl it, if it only takes like 170 or so to cash you're a shoe in going in with a plastic ball and whacking the headpin all day and making your spares. Has anyone ever done this?
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Post by: Urethane Game on May 06, 2004, 03:18:13 PM
Sr. Kegler, 71 and 72 at Western Bowl is in the parking lot.
67 & 68 is the heavy wood pair.Good Luck!
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Post by: Rick Wunder on May 07, 2004, 10:29:41 AM
I'll be bowling on my usual squad this year - August 26 at 11:45 AM. I bowl on a squad with what has been a growing number of Webers each year. When I first started, it was Dick, Rich, John, and eventually, Pete. Lately we have picked up Pete's wife and two of Dick's grandsons. Rumor has it that Pete's father-in-law will join us this year, giving the Webers and family two full pairs. In addition to the Webers, there are several regional players, and sometimes one or two other touring players. It's quite a squad (in spite of me
).Future155 -
I would not recommend your choice of balls for the Petersen. As others have said, plastic (or rubber, if you have one lying around) and urethane are best at the Pete. You will have enough trouble controlling your ball reaction without having to deal with something reactive, as well. If you want to bring one of those, I would suspect that the Tour Power would be the better of the two. I would strongly recommend that your other ball be a plastic ball and that you be able to throw it straight, even on a carpet. You cannot afford to be missing spares at this tournament, because the strikes will most likely be few and far between. I bowled with a guy last year who shot a game in the fifties (I am not kidding) because he could not throw his ball (a mild reactive) straight and the pair hooked so much, he could barely keep it on the lane.
DP3 -
The strategy you suggest is a great strategy for a backup plan when you can't find a ball reaction on a particular lane. I take a Columbia Messenger Black (urethane) dull and my Target Zone (plastic) highly polished. If necessary, I can headhunt with either of those balls, just as you described. Last year, on one pair, I hooked plastic on the right lane and went straight at the headpin from the left side (I'm right-handed) with my urethane. I ended up high on the pair for the day, which made me some money (we have squad pots).
As most have said, just go in without any great expectations and have fun.
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Post by: ThongPrincess on May 07, 2004, 05:09:27 PM
SrKegler and Livespive, would the 26th work for you with the Hoinke before that? I haven't booked any travel yet.
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Post by: SrKegler on May 07, 2004, 05:40:55 PM
Rick, do you forsee any problems getting us added to your squad?
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Post by: livespive on May 07, 2004, 08:18:59 PM
and I don't plan to let that happen
Just let me know what you all decide on, It's easier for me to get there than
you, what works for you works for me.
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Post by: Doc Hollywood on May 08, 2004, 03:09:17 AM
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