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Pinbuster

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Lane Play question
« on: January 21, 2004, 04:58:37 PM »
Last night in our traveling scratch league we start out practicing and there is a lot of oil (particularly for second shift) still on the lanes. There is a nice blend with dry boards outside 10 and a puddle in the middle, very easy condition.

I took my normal ball moved right 10 boards with my feet and 4 with my eyes and life is good.

The other team instantly go to their bags and pull out hooking sponges so that they can still play the deeper shot, 4 of their 5 bowlers do this.

By the start of the second game they have blown a hole in the puddle and essentially created a tube shot.

Now these guys are no slouches. Multiple eagle winners, 2 ABC hall of famers (one probably will be in a few years), and a couple of collegiate bowlers.

My question is why do you chop up a good shot like that? Before the night was over I had to move in over 17 boards to keep up with the break down. If everyone would have played milder equipment  the shot would have held much better, the adjustments would have been smaller, and everyone would have scored higher.

It’s not sour grapes in the since I still shot a higher series than any of them. They eventually had to switch back to tamer equipment and because of the effect of the tube then they had an OB to contend with.


 

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Re: Lane Play question
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2004, 08:03:20 AM »
i don't have an answer to your question.  all i know is that i am relitivly new to bowling (4 years) and moving out with more tame equipment seems almost like second nature in that situation.  i wouldn't have even thought of staying in.  not that this means much, but that is what i would have done too.
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Re: Lane Play question
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2004, 08:12:10 AM »
MAybe because they knew the shot was easy,
and was trying to keep the oposition for scoring well?
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Re: Lane Play question
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2004, 08:48:21 AM »
I'd guess that like many bowlers these days they believe in their maximum hook philosophy and if they can't do that, they get physically and mentally uncomfortable. They do not think about what using such balls will do to the shot, which is surprising, given the fact that they own Eagles and must bowl in many tournaments.

I must admit that at times, I do that when I am not thinking.

Reccently I have read in some coach's column that the preferred philosophy in lining up your shot, whether in league or in tournaments, is to use a ball that is barely adequete to get to the pocket and carry. In this way, as the shot develops, wears away, and transitions, the (mild or weak) ball you started with will become more appropriate to the developing shot. You can use this ball better and better and the shot will come to you, as opposed to you have to make more drastic and sometimes more difficult changes in delivery or ball changes.

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Re: Lane Play question
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2004, 08:59:48 AM »
Last spring a national PBA player (3 time champion) was subbing on our team and a similar situation occurred (a different opposing team).

He also expressed his dismay at that time of those players chopping up a good shot and that on the PBA they tried to work together keep the shot going. I’ve heard this year that has been somewhat of a problem with all the new blood on the tour and a lot of them want to start out deep and end up with no where to move to.

The eagle holders while using sponges played straight enough that they didn’t chop up the lane as bad as the two collegian’s who were trying to hook the lane. Funny thing there was their coach is on the team (one of the eagle holders).

I would think with all the brackets and side bets going on you wouldn’t be looking to mess up the shot for the other team as much as you would be looking to keep a shot going that you could score on.

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Re: Lane Play question
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2004, 09:18:30 AM »
Could be some kind of un- or semi-conscious group behaviour on the other team's part? A "we need to agree on a line" mentality. At least I think it's easier to decide on line and ball choice when I am bowling for myself only. May not be the best decision, though. But destroying the shot with sponges probably wasn't, either.

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Re: Lane Play question
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2004, 01:14:43 PM »
Pinbuster, personally I hope you whipped that team.  

PB evidently didn't stress enough to everyone that these are not your average house hacks.  They are ABC Eagle winners with extremely highly certified coaches from college and Team USA ranks.  I can't emphasize enough that these players have the required knowledge and skills at their disposal that all but a few elite individuals possess.  All of us hacks must show their respect to these individuals.

While I do not rank in the same category of the above mentioned team members, I do have my own opinion of this team from previous competition.  They believe that they are better than the other teams they will face in leagues.  Opponents also must recognize the qualifications brought to the table and most opponents will lose due to their mere reputation.  This great team uses this to their advantage by intentionally blowing up a pattern and forcing the other teams to play the lanes in the manner they dictate.  As PB said, he was forced to adjust.  I compare this to a basketball team that will press, shoot quick and basically try to run its opponent out of the building by scoring so many points, that the opponent forgets how to play the game.  This team metaphorically gets in your face and says, I'm better than you and now I'm going to force you into playing the game how I want to play it.  This can be intimidating to say the least.

When I bowled against this team, I would get pumped up and just loved tasting victory.  However, since they usually won the league, I always left hungry.  I would watch and listen very close to find out when and how much they were moving and make sure I kept up.  They were definitely going to lead the dance, I just wanted to keep in step.