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shakezilla9

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The science of bowling
« on: May 23, 2009, 07:52:56 AM »
Hello, I am a college student attending UCR and am considering writing a paper on the science of bowling for one of my classes. Do any of you know of a good source with any credible articles explaining how core dynamics and coverstock chemistry  affect ball motion? Absolutely anything would be of use. I know a good deal about how it all works just from bowling experience, and reading postings on this site, but I do not wish to go from memory and risk stating something not altogether correct.

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Re: The science of bowling
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2009, 03:55:18 PM »
Try this: http://www.bowl.com/Downloads/pdf/Specs/08ballmotionstudy.pdf

or this: http://www.bowl.com/articleView.aspx?i=13354&f=21
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Re: The science of bowling
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2009, 03:58:04 PM »
what_makes_a_bowling_ball_hook.pdf

This article, by Cliff Frohlich, was published in a 2004 issue of the American Journal of Physics.  A scholarly look at ball motion.

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This article presents exact equations of motion for a rotating bowling ball in a form that explicitly
separates contributions due to nonequal principal moments of inertia, center-of-mass offset, and
friction between the ball and lane.
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Re: The science of bowling
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2009, 03:59:43 PM »
thank you guys so much!
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Re: The science of bowling
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2009, 04:10:33 PM »
Or this, from 1929: https://kb.osu.edu/dspace/bitstream/1811/2414/1/V29N04_187.pdf
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Re: The science of bowling
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2009, 04:28:27 PM »
Your topic is way too broad.  Narrow it down to the science of ball motion
and the related dynamics.

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Re: The science of bowling
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2009, 05:10:29 PM »
The subject is way broad.   There is more science than just ball science.  Shoes and accessories have a lot of science.  All parts of the lanes, pins and oils have a lot of science.  Health science is a big topic.  

For ball science three names come to mind to look up.  Mo Pinel, Del Warren, and Ron Hickland would be good starts.  Also some articles of BTM may help.

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Re: The science of bowling
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2009, 05:34:33 PM »
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Your topic is way too broad.  Narrow it down to the science of ball motion
and it related dynamics.


I assume this misunderstanding stems from my vague statement that my paper is on the science of bowling. What I was trying to say, was that my topic is on ball motion, that is why I specifically asked for articles relating to motion and its causes and nothing else. I assumed that my request would be sufficient in describing what I was planing to write on, but alas I suppose I should have explicitly specified.
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Re: The science of bowling
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2009, 02:05:20 AM »
Your lack of communication skills should be noted and you should not expect
to repeat them and get a satisfactory outcome.  Say what you mean, you are a
college student asking to get respect for a professional paper.  In addition,
do your own homework, don't ask someone else where the articles are.  Take
responsibility.  This is coming from someone who has taught freshman level
courses at the junior college level.  You should also always write critically
at this level and not make any mistakes in grammar or spelling.

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Re: The science of bowling
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2009, 06:01:04 AM »
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do your own homework, don't ask someone else where the articles are.  



I'm sorry, but I can't think of one reason why not to seek assistance when it is freely available. I think it would be foolish to deny myself great articles like the ones that were provided to me in the event that I was unable to find them. And you speak as if you had no idea as to what in the world I was talking about yet others seemed to get it immediately. I wasn't asking for advice on what topic I should write on, I was asking for articles that could help me explain ball motion: Everyone else understood that and contributed.
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Re: The science of bowling
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2009, 07:46:30 AM »
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do your own homework, don't ask someone else where the articles are.  



I'm sorry, but I can't think of one reason why not to seek assistance when it is freely available. I think it would be foolish to deny myself great articles like the ones that were provided to me in the event that I was unable to find them. And you speak as if you had no idea as to what in the world I was talking about yet others seemed to get it immediately. I wasn't asking for advice on what topic I should write on, I was asking for articles that could help me explain ball motion: Everyone else understood that and contributed.
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Shakezilla9 don't let it bother you.

As for your post topic "the science of bowling". Yes that is a board subject, but you narrowed that subject to "articles explaining how core dynamics and coverstock chemistry affect ball motion" in the body of your post.

Your communication skills are just fine.

As for asking for articles/reference materials here, it's not any different than asking for them at the library. So you are doing your "homework".

Also I'd say you have got all the info your going to get here. So lock the thread before a big flaming match breaks out.



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Re: The science of bowling
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2009, 11:41:51 PM »
You are missing one of the main points of this assignment.  Besides the
end result, the side issue is doing the research, becomming familiar with
the library and internet sources, and the process of doing the work.

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Re: The science of bowling
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2009, 05:20:01 PM »
I'd say asking a forum is a pretty advanced form of internet research.  

How much would he be able to actually get in a college library?  There's no history of literature on bowling, there's no specific research centers like a film student would have access to.  To get the info he needs he has to get in touch with the actual chemists and designers of bowling balls.  I think this forum would be a great place to start that search, all sorts of higher ups (and past higher ups) post here.


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Re: The science of bowling
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2009, 05:22:15 PM »
Shake, keep us posted on the paper.  At least I'm interested in it.  I did my last college paper on the architecture and design of bowling and the cathedrals in which we play this game.  What class is this for?


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Re: The science of bowling
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2009, 06:36:23 PM »
Normally to write a professional paper in college there are minimum standards.
At an accredited University to which you hope to get a quality education, some
of these standards are:  1.  All references must come from a professional
journal to be recognized (such as the Journal of Health, Physical Education,
and Recreation or the Research Quarterly.  2.  All persons quoted must have
academic credidation to be recognized (minimum of a Master's Degree in the
specific area investigated).  Anything less than the above would cause the
paper to be returned to the writer.
   I am not sure where he could find these types of professionalisms on this
site.  The people who you are asking may have a great deal of knowledge, but
they would not be recognized in the academic world.  This world is what is
being referenced.  If your paper has anything less than the criteria, your
education will not be worth much.