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98custom

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The Trick To Carrying....
« on: October 01, 2009, 04:05:10 AM »
...seems to be eluding me. Lately I just seem to have horrible 'luck'. The reason I term this luck goes back to the last few weeks. I bowl in 3 different houses, with three different shots. I've tried multiple balls, lines, speeds, rotation, loft/no loft etc. Corner pins, both 7s (lefty) and 10s like you wouldn't believe no matter the combination.

Now I suppose this could be entry angle, balls burning up, dead wood, etc.

Enter last night.

Practice starts, decent amount of oil, I have a great line to the pocket with my Break. first game left a 7 and an 8 pin on pocket hits, ok sucks but normal. Then we enter the 8th frame of the 2nd game after already leaving an additional 9 pin and 7 pin, 8th frame 8 pin, 9th frame 9 pin, 10th frame 2 8 pins. Start the third game with another 8 pin. Yes 4 in a row on that lane, and the rack wasn't offset that we could tell. I proceeded to leave 2 more 8 pins 2 9 pins and a 7-10 in the third game.

My spare shooting was good an i missed none of the single pin spares but I was extremely frustrated.

From everything I know, and my teammates know we couldn't figure it out. At one point I left a 9 pin and my teammate a righty followed me with an 8 pin. Next frame i leave the 8 and he leaves the 9.

Can we chalk it up to a bad rack or just bad luck?

Any advice on what to do in the future would be great.
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Re: The Trick To Carrying....
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2009, 01:12:05 PM »
a solid 8 is not always a high hit anymore with reactive equiptment..  his ball just may not be getting to the roll phase. its just skid, hook, and not roll so it could be coninuing past the 8pin.. I would suggest u throw a ball that get into a rool sooner or adjust with your feet..
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Re: The Trick To Carrying....
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2009, 01:43:33 PM »
now that I read his profile im wondering where he is playing the lanes. because it seems with low rev, medium speed, and low axis tilt it would be hard to leave that many 8pins unless hes playing in the dirt.
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Re: The Trick To Carrying....
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2009, 01:44:36 PM »
Stormbowler, As I said I did adjust. I tried going straight as well as giving the ball some room. And between the few that occured one after another I did make slight adjustments back and right. It seemed to not matter much. Perhaps I didn't adjust enough... but usually slight adjustments of a board or two right will solve an issue like that from my past experience.

As i said I didn't stand on 15 and hit 10 all night... far from it. When you're saying you usually move in for 8 pins are you talking a board? 3? 5? I feel much more than 3 and you're really changing lines more than adjusting within the line you're playing which I also tried. It just seemed no matter where I went on the lane I was crushing the hole only to leave something on the back row.

I'm by no means a pro and openly admit that my lease isn't completely identical frame to frame but I am one of the more consistent league bowlers and have carried respecatble averages in a number of houses.
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Re: The Trick To Carrying....
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2009, 01:47:08 PM »
Sorry I haven't updated that in a while. I've had my equipment re-fitted and changed to a shorter span. So i'm now throwing 15.5-16mph with revs that match my speed. I'm also generating average axis tilt.

As for playing in the dirt, this league has a fair amount of oil with clean backends. Even the heavier handed guys were able to throw aggressive equipment without having to hook the lane as the oil is pretty long. I'm not sure how many feet and won't try to guess.

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now that I read his profile im wondering where he is playing the lanes. because it seems with low rev, medium speed, and low axis tilt it would be hard to leave that many 8pins unless hes playing in the dirt.

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Re: The Trick To Carrying....
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2009, 01:49:07 PM »
I'd say that if you were adjusting, there were multiple factors in play, which would call for larger adjustments, ball change, etc.  I would personally switch to a ball that doesn't finish so strong.  If you're leaving 8s and 10s as a lefty, that says to me that you've got too much angle (10s) and drive through the pocket (8s).  Try a ball that has a cleaner finish and not so much snap for that particular condition.
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Re: The Trick To Carrying....
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2009, 08:36:48 PM »
Take a little hand out of the ball.
Depending on how you have your hand as is, you can:
1: Un curl your pinky
2: Move your pinky in tight next to your ring finger
3: Move your index finger in tight against your middle finger

If none of those are a possibility, flatten out the wrist a little bit, start your push off a tiny higher to add a tiny bit of speed, half a step forward at your start, or 1 board right (for a lefty)

And of the above should help, and if none of them alone, maybe 1-2 combined should fix it.  At least for me, it's something as small as that.

Or as others stated, a ball change.
Stone 8 for you, means the ball is hooking passed the 8 pin, and rolling off the deck near the 9 or 10.  Which is a good question, where is your ball exiting the pin deck.  Too much entry angle, too much hook, or too high in the pocket.  Usually the most common reasons for lefty 8s, or righty 9's.  In my personal experience anyways.
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Re: The Trick To Carrying....
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2009, 08:42:41 PM »
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I''d say that if you were adjusting, there were multiple factors in play, which would call for larger adjustments, ball change, etc.  I would personally switch to a ball that doesn''t finish so strong.  If you''re leaving 8s and 10s as a lefty, that says to me that you''ve got too much angle (10s) and drive through the pocket (8s).  Try a ball that has a cleaner finish and not so much snap for that particular condition.
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I agree with your statements.  A couple of weeks back I left a 8-10(left handed) because the ball had too much drive.  I think it was my VG on a THS during practice( I was testing all of my storm stuff that day).  While it''s good for laughs in practice, in league or competition it can be a momentum killer.

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