How could the PBA manipulate their oil patterns to make them less urethane friendly? Make them longer? Reduce the lengthwise taper? It is even possible to completely take urethane out of play? What are your thoughts?

Who cares if some people don't like urethane. I don't think most of the pros  really care except for maybe Rash.😉

As for regular Joe and Jane Amateur league/sometimes tournament bowler. Their opinion really doesn't matter at all. If one bowler is so worried about another bowler throwing urethane the bowler doing the bitching are not nearly as good of a bowler as they think they are.😄

Seriously its no different than 20 years ago or whenever it was Reactive resin became the ball of choice, and  a bunch of bowlers were all butt hurt their urethane balls were not  working as well as they once did.🤣 Same song different dance.🤘🏼

Honestly, I dont think there are very many pros that really "like" urethane.  But, at the end of the day, they have to use what is going to give them the best chance to win and push them because that is what the companies are releasing.  Even though Rash has gone public with his disdain for it, I could see him throwing the UC3 at quite a few stops since that balls reacts like resin on the backend.

We are approaching the 39th anniversary of the introduction of reactive resin, also known as "cheater balls" at the time.  Life gets more humorous the older I get

I thought the first reactive resin ball came out in 1992, being either the Rhino Pro, the XCalibur, or Turbo/X..

Honestly, I dont think there are very many pros that really "like" urethane.  But, at the end of the day, they have to use what is going to give them the best chance to win and push them because that is what the companies are releasing.  Even though Rash has gone public with his disdain for it, I could see him throwing the UC3 at quite a few stops since that balls reacts like resin on the backend.

That's why I mentioned Amleto, since he dominated the PBA between 1988 and 1992 prior to reactive resin coming out. If urethane became dominant again, I could see him coming back out onto the main tour for a stop or two (just because) and run circles around the kids.

As for Rash, he actually proves my point in my previous post regarding not liking Urethane because he's not wanting to use it to his advantage. He has the ability to use it; spending the time to complain about it instead of honing that ability to use it is detrimental to him and his game.

BL.

As someone who came up with rubber, through polyester, then urethane, and then resin, and then more reactive resin,this is a most stupid conversation.  Standing outside and reading all this BS is sickening.  Christ guys, just learn to bowl

Bowling has always been an environmental game.  Lane surfaces evolved from shellac to lacquer to urethane to synthetics.  Balls evolved from rubber to polyester to urethane to resin enhanced urethane.  All of these changes favored different types of releases.  Some adjusted to the changes and some did not. 

I was terrible during the 80s, complaining about the cup wristed crankers who out carried me to such an extent that my superior spare shooting was irrelevant.   I never did adjust effectively to that environment.  Resin along with a return to longer oil reinvigorated my game in the 90s. 

The re emergence of urethane today is much different than in the 80s.  In the 80s the power players slow hooked the lane taking advantage of the short oil.  Today they use urethane to keep the ball straighter with high ball soeed

How could the PBA manipulate their oil patterns to make them less urethane friendly? Make them longer? Reduce the lengthwise taper? It is even possible to completely take urethane out of play? What are your thoughts?

Just to go back a little to the original post...

We've been testing a bunch of patterns for upcoming/future tournaments and have had a few 5 gamers to test with as well. The one thing we've learned with trying to bring in more bowlers, is those less knowledgeable have instantly gone to urethane if the pattern is 40ft or less.

Our center is also lower friction, so big balls with surface are almost always in play especially if the pattern has at least 24mls.

It seems as though urethane being everywhere has spread to amateur bowlers who throw it nowhere close to how most on the PBA Tour do

How could the PBA manipulate their oil patterns to make them less urethane friendly?

 Why would you want to?

 Can you not learn to use it too?

 If not, why not?

Make them longer? Reduce the lengthwise taper? It is even possible to completely take urethane out of play? What are your thoughts?

My thoughts are: When you limit the activity, you limit the number of participant as well.

 There are those out here that PREFER the look and reaction of urethane. Jakob Butturf and Jesper Svensson are two that come to mind. I’m sure there are more.

 Bowling is a sport, and as such, is something to COMPETE at. If I can use a urethane ball and score well enough, while also preventing you from being able to bury me, why shouldn’t I?

 If I have the skill and ability to use urethane to help me beat you, and you don’t have the necessary skill and ability to either stop me, or join me in using urethane, the you DESERVE to lose.

 If resin really was as good as some think, it wouldn’t be easy to keep it from working.

I think Rashes heavy end over end roll would match up great with urethane, especially the way he likes to play some patterns