Author Topic: There is NO Such Thing As A Heavy Oil Bowling Ball (Read 27578 times)

Necromancer · « **on:** March 25, 2007, 11:30:03 AM »

I came to this conclusion today as I saw yet another tournament filled with high performance balls just skid straight to the head pins by 200 + average bowlers. What I really liked about this tournament is that Ebonite supposedly sponsored it and was giving Total NV balls to entrants that paid the extra fee. What was funnier was watching these NV's nail the 3 pin shot after shot. It really put a smile on my face to see what some call "The Greatest Bowling Ball Ever" look like garbage. Some bowlers were even willing to trash their new NV's after the tournament. So hilarious!

Back to the point. I don't think any manufacturer should be able to say their ball performs on heavy oil. In the end, no ball hooks in heavy oil and I don't care if you throw it 10 mph or put 600 rpms on the ball. It will just go straight. When you are in tournament conditions where the walls are flooded and the oil is spread past 50 feet, give me a break. The best ball is a straight ball to the pocket. Hooking is impossible.

Bottom line: No HEAVY OIL bowling ball exists.

Discuss!

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Hammer Black Widow
Lane #1 Cobalt Bomb Solid
Storm Trauma ER
Storm Recharge
Ebonite Vortex Afterburner
Columbia 300 Messenger Ti
Storm Hit Blue Pearl
Ebonite 14 Fun Ball
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2007 Year Average: 212.861
2007 Tournament Average: 161.167
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MelvinBrunsTrack · « **Reply #61 on:** March 26, 2007, 06:40:52 AM »

My Bruncwick Swamp monster work great in heavy oil.10th bd to the pocket. Swamp monster is truely big particle ball.

Djarum · « **Reply #62 on:** March 26, 2007, 08:54:25 AM »

My feelings on this are simple. Are we talking about hook, or carry? I've seen lanes so oiled up that the heaviest thing on the market wouldn't "hook", but they would roll. Sometimes you have to play straight at the pocket and just let the ball roll.

Dj
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Fluff E Bunnie · « **Reply #63 on:** March 26, 2007, 09:13:09 AM »

Yeah roll the thing in there.
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bcw1969 · « **Reply #64 on:** March 26, 2007, 09:16:24 AM »

If you can still find one, may I suggest a visionary Midnight scorcher----hook AND control in heavy oil, I love mine.

Brad

Martin710 · « **Reply #65 on:** March 26, 2007, 09:17:19 AM »

Hi BR members, I found this topic very informative. I'm relatively new to bowling. I would like to know if the Storm Shift, which is a particle pearl, is a good heavy oil ball?

chrisleftwich · « **Reply #66 on:** March 26, 2007, 09:34:19 AM »

I shot on a 50" pattern with Mag pins, its a christmas tournament. I played the tournament with a scorchin Inferno right up 15 and it worked pretty good. Maybe just try to adjust to the shot and then you will see that you don't need a particle or what not, just don't try to hook it much, play a straighter line to the pocket.
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jbruno6 · « **Reply #67 on:** March 26, 2007, 09:45:51 AM »

You've never thrown the Yellow Angle

Ragnar · « **Reply #68 on:** March 26, 2007, 10:01:25 AM »

Necromancer is my hero. Why? Because he is right. There may be bowlers for heavy oil, but the ball ain't gonna get 'er done all alone.

Here's a trick for heavy oil: point more at the pocket, not away; slow it down, come up the back, hope for a bit of tilt at the pocket. Did you ever watch a snow tire accelerate on ice? IT spins.
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michelle · « **Reply #69 on:** March 26, 2007, 10:23:50 AM »

Rags nailed part of the point I was going to make...too many people refuse to get out of the habit of trying to swing the ball even when confronted with the patterns being described.

There is certainly some aggressive particle equipment that has been marketed that will be of assistance in patterns like that, but it still comes down to release and roll...swinging the ball is usually not going to be in the equation, at least not early in the shift.

Fluff E Bunnie · « **Reply #70 on:** March 26, 2007, 10:39:15 AM »

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Rags nailed part of the point I was going to make...too many people refuse to get out of the habit of trying to swing the ball even when confronted with the patterns being described.

But I MUST swing it coast to coast no matter what the lane is telling me!
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jls · « **Reply #71 on:** March 26, 2007, 11:32:45 AM »

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Nate Nice it is because of people like you that Columbia is out of buisness you are not in full possesion of the facts! and you have evidently never throwen and EPXt1 they are incredible, hooking power unmatched in the Sport of Bowling. Now to the facts: 1: The early batches cracked just like Ebonite One, and Storms Paradigm and Passion. Why do you single out Columbia for Ridicule on the cracking issue when two other companies gear were doing the same thing?
Fact 2: The ball dies because people like YOU do not know how to clean it properly, it must put in hot water every 20-30 games or the ball will lose reaction, also Brunswick's Rejuvinator is also a very good tool for cleaning an EPX they will bleed like a pig when these methods are used. The ONE line from Ebonite is dying faster than EPX's were once again why are you ridiculing Columbia why not Ebonite?

Now you have the facts If you want a ball that works in the juice and I do mean any volume of heavy oil you need to look no further than Columbia300 and the EPXt1!!

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Mainzerpower

since the epx came out, we had never had a customer bring one in that cracked untill about a month ago.

the customer who brought the cracked epx in, also brought in 2 new balls to be drilled.

an epx ti, and a epx a1.

kinda thinking he liked the ball.
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jls31316

Edited on 3/26/2007 11:33 AM

Strapper_Squared · « **Reply #72 on:** March 26, 2007, 11:41:44 AM »

Was the Midnight Scorcher mentioned? I had one for a brief period of time, but never found enough oil for the ball to clear the heads without burning up.. LOL

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jls · « **Reply #73 on:** March 26, 2007, 11:49:24 AM »

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Rags nailed part of the point I was going to make...too many people refuse to get out of the habit of trying to swing the ball even when confronted with the patterns being described.

But I MUST swing it coast to coast no matter what the lane is telling me!
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Thunderstruck $olid

a few months ago i has several young bowlers in waiting to get there balls drilled. we had espn classic bowling on tv, { no womens golf that morning }

dick weber was bowling. straight as an arrow. these young guns could not stop laughing. plus they had no idea who he was.

now do you really think that todays young guns if and when they actually do hit oil, are go to slow it down and point it???

i don't think so!!!

actually had to flip the channel to a soap, just to get them to stop laughing.

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jls31316

Necromancer · « **Reply #74 on:** March 26, 2007, 11:57:02 AM »

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Nate Nice it is because of people like you that Columbia is out of buisness you are not in full possesion of the facts! and you have evidently never throwen and EPXt1 they are incredible, hooking power unmatched in the Sport of Bowling. Now to the facts: 1: The early batches cracked just like Ebonite One, and Storms Paradigm and Passion. Why do you single out Columbia for Ridicule on the cracking issue when two other companies gear were doing the same thing?
Fact 2: The ball dies because people like YOU do not know how to clean it properly, it must put in hot water every 20-30 games or the ball will lose reaction, also Brunswick's Rejuvinator is also a very good tool for cleaning an EPX they will bleed like a pig when these methods are used. The ONE line from Ebonite is dying faster than EPX's were once again why are you ridiculing Columbia why not Ebonite?

Now you have the facts If you want a ball that works in the juice and I do mean any volume of heavy oil you need to look no further than Columbia300 and the EPXt1!!

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Mainzerpower

since the epx came out, we had never had a customer bring one in that cracked untill about a month ago.

the customer who brought the cracked epx in, also brought in 2 new balls to be drilled.

an epx ti, and a epx a1.

kinda thinking he liked the ball.
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jls31316

Edited on 3/26/2007 11:33 AM

Man, I wished there weren't so many mixed opinions of this ball. I just don't want to start bowling with it and a few games in start seeing the coverstock crack all over the place. I really like the innovative idea of using Epoxy as a coverstock. I am tired of seeing all these reactives come out monthly it seems with different weight blocks in them. I believe reaction starts with the coverstock. I am really interested in the Epoxy and Particle coverstocks. Bowling ball companies need to invest time in creating new coverstocks and stop wasting time creating cores that, in the end, have very small influence on the reaction. From diamond cores to bombs, from 2-piece to 5-piece cores. Soon they will start making cores that resemble boots, axes, and middle fingers and say these balls are just so different. Come on guys, NEW COVERSTOCKS!

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Current Arsenal
Storm X-Factor Vertigo
Hammer Black Widow
Lane #1 Cobalt Bomb Solid
Storm Trauma ER
Storm Recharge
Ebonite Vortex Afterburner
Columbia 300 Messenger Ti
Storm Hit Blue Pearl
Ebonite 14 Fun Ball
Total Season Average: 205.642
2007 Year Average: 212.861
2007 Tournament Average: 161.167
The Vertigo is the best ball Storm ever made. Find one if you can.
I might have the strongest drilled Black Widow in history.

splendorlex · « **Reply #75 on:** March 26, 2007, 01:33:38 PM »

Necro--

If you're hooking at ANY spares in tourneys, your trouble is starting right there my friend. You MUST shoot straight at spares in unfamiliar and/or tough tourney conditions. There isn't that built in mistake room for hooking the ball at spares. Now, I'm not a great bowler. I only average about 180 on the THS. You know one of the reasons why? I started bowling tourney conditions at the SAME time as I started bowling leagues. I still haven't figured out how to throw to an area or use mistake room on the THS, but come tourney time my average is right about the same, give or take a couple of pins. I learned to play it straighter from the start, on strikes and spares, and this had made me a better tourney bowler than league bowler. Now, if only I could figure out how to use that WALL...
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