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TonyinPortland

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Pre-Bowling Honor Scores
« on: August 25, 2015, 01:57:11 AM »
One of our teams has pre-bowled a couple times.  This was a few years back.  I remember asking our secretary (or someone), if someone shot a 300, did it still count (as an honor score) and was told it would.

However the current rule says it does not.  Is this something that was changed recently, or was it always this way?  Also, what is the logic behind not allowing it?

From USBC Rules:

111e/7 Can you explain when High Scores will or will not be recognized by USBC?
USBC will recognize High Scores bowled when:
1. Two scheduled opponents pre-bowl or post-bowl together. (Direct Opposition.)
2. The entire league is rescheduled.
3. A team is bowling alone during league play because the opposing team has pre- or post-
 bowled.
4. A team bowling alone because the league has uneven number of teams.
High Scores will not be recognized by USBC when:
1. An individual or team bowls unopposed.
2. Games are bowled unopposed before or after a league session.
3. League has uneven number of teams and the team without an opponent does not bowl
 with the league.
4. Two teams from the same league that are not scheduled against each other bowl together.
5. Two teams from different leagues bowl together.

 

MI 2 AZ

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Re: Pre-Bowling Honor Scores
« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2015, 01:01:57 AM »
I have seen a pre-bowled 300; it was back in 1998-1999 season.  only time I have witnessed or had a league participant that I was in throw an honor score with a pre-bowling.

RE: Mushtare, I also seem to recall complaints regarding this because the center he bowled the 900 was owned by his family.  at least that is what I recall hearing. may not be true.

But I have always thought of the "no honor scores when pre-bowling" as the "Mushtare rule"

That rumour about Mushtare's family owning the center is just that. He was bowling on a military installation (Fort Drum) at the time.

Here is an article about him:
http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20051229/COLUMNIST27/512290436

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Re: Pre-Bowling Honor Scores
« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2015, 09:49:28 AM »
Mushtares family ran the bowling center on Ft Drum, during the time He shot the 900's. That is a fact I lived up there for 26 years.

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Re: Pre-Bowling Honor Scores
« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2015, 12:00:37 PM »
I pre bowled a 300 in a summer sport singles league last year.  I didn't really care about it not being sanctioned except for the fact it would have been a sport shot 300.  Also, I am not sure the shot was sport compliant.  We bowled 3 weeks on the pattern and I averaged 230+ for the 12 games including a 297 game a couple of weeks later.  It was supposed to be the USBC team pattern, and did play similar, but scores were high