mrbowlingnut -- But, from what I've heard, Billy Hall is also a great coach. I think a bowler needs ONE coach to work with that will become familiar with his game and identify problems. If you want that ONE coach to be Ron Hoppe, then go to his sessions and continue with him. Otherwise, skip them and stick with Billy Hall. (I wish I had your problem - here in the boonies we don't get these opportunities.) -- JohnP