This is the norm in both of my leagues as well on a THS that is definitely on the lighter side. I don't understand why people don't use equipment that suits the lane conditions rather than look for the biggest hooking, most aggressive balls on the market. What's more baffling is watching those same people turn around midway through the set and complain that they can't get the ball to the pocket while throwing straight up the track. Maybe its because you are throwing HEAVY oil balls on a broken down LIGHT oil pattern...genius!! haha

Its a million times easier of a shot for me to throw a wrecker rather than my nano pearl lol. 

Its a shame the pro shops could make money if they put out a heavier shot!

I have had this discussion with many a pro shop, lanemen, and general managers. 

Here is the issue:

1) The "average" league bowler wants their ball to look like the pros.  However, the average league bowler, has a rev rate under 250.  So in their own way, they are asking for less oil.

2) Most senior bowlers want less oil - they don't put much on the ball any more.  A lot of them cannot hook and carry in heavy oil.

3) The only people asking for more oil are the type of bowler who post on this board.  These bowlers typically bowl 1 league at a house.  In reality, they probably bowl multiple leagues, but at different houses across town.

So if the house accommodates the high average guys and put out more oil, they make the average league bowlers mad that they don't get the ball reaction of pros.  And they have made the seniors mad that only the young whipper snappers can hook the ball.

But the average bowler and the seniors make up a higher % of leagues than the once a week high average bowler appearance.  Thus they tend to keep the higher % of their clientele happy.

Makes good business practice. 

Quote from: billdozer on August 27, 2013, 02:48:19 PM

Its a million times easier of a shot for me to throw a wrecker rather than my nano pearl lol. 

Its a shame the pro shops could make money if they put out a heavier shot!

I have had this discussion with many a pro shop, lanemen, and general managers. 

Here is the issue:

1) The "average" league bowler wants their ball to look like the pros.  However, the average league bowler, has a rev rate under 250.  So in their own way, they are asking for less oil.

2) Most senior bowlers want less oil - they don't put much on the ball any more.  A lot of them cannot hook and carry in heavy oil.

3) The only people asking for more oil are the type of bowler who post on this board.  These bowlers typically bowl 1 league at a house.  In reality, they probably bowl multiple leagues, but at different houses across town.

So if the house accommodates the high average guys and put out more oil, they make the average league bowlers mad that they don't get the ball reaction of pros.  And they have made the seniors mad that only the young whipper snappers can hook the ball.

But the average bowler and the seniors make up a higher % of leagues than the once a week high average bowler appearance.  Thus they tend to keep the higher % of their clientele happy.

Makes good business practice. 

1.  Agree.
2.  In the senior leagues I bowl in, most of the over 65 crowd are real low on ball speed, 10mph or less at the deck, down to about 5mph.  They usually have too much hook and actually want either a longer pattern or more oil.
3.  Probably.

It's easier to adjust to too much hook than not enough

It's easier to adjust to too much hook than not enough

 THANK YOU!

 I have said this exact thing for a LONG time, but nobody here seems to believe me.

I get it.  I guess people are not up for a challenge?!  There is a house nearby that puts down THS every league and they have multiple 300's and 700-800's every month. The house I bowl at had 3 300's in the past 3 years, no 800's. guess which house has more interest?  Yup, the high scoring house. There's like a 30 pin difference in averages for the two centers.

Local Men's League started up last night. It's your typical house shot. Could state its on the lighter side of oil. Amazing how many bowlers still try to use hook monsters on this condition.

It actually hurt watching some of them throwing the ball as hard as they could.

Trash Heap, I bought a Full Swing when Columbia released the ball in 2009. The FS was considered "high performance," and it certainly was high performance under the right conditions. However, I used the FS on standard house patterns---a major mistake. The FS has a very porous coverstock and is a good weapon in heavy oil which you rarely see on the typical house shot.

I stopped trying to force the FS to do what it was not designed to do and switched to The Freeze---a better ball for the conditions that we face.