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haff

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TODAYS OILS AND OLD BALLS
« on: July 16, 2010, 10:32:49 PM »
Are "MODERN OILS"  not so good on old balls????????
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Re: TODAYS OILS AND OLD BALLS
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2010, 07:20:40 AM »
depends, for flat patterns and what is being played is light oil, then old balls are actually pretty good
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Re: TODAYS OILS AND OLD BALLS
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2010, 07:49:42 AM »
Really depends on what generation of "old" balls we are talking about. If you are talking about balls from the 90's through today yeah, but other than that unless it's a pretty well broken down pair of lanes I can't typically put the much older stuff I have like my Black Night into play.
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Re: TODAYS OILS AND OLD BALLS
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2010, 07:58:13 AM »
BALLS Starting from th 1990's
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Re: TODAYS OILS AND OLD BALLS
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2010, 08:19:47 AM »
"Yesterdays" covers are a generation or two behind today's oils.  What was a heavy oil ball 5+ years ago will work fine on today's medium to med/light oil.  I use plenty of older balls today and score fine with them.
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Re: TODAYS OILS AND OLD BALLS
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2010, 11:16:53 PM »
I pulled out my Burgandy Hammer which was a monster in its day a couple years ago. Thought it would be great for late travel league. Ball went as straight as a plastic. Real shocker. My old Pirahna that I used to bank off the gutter is a real weak ball now compared to even the weak balls coming out now.
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Doug Sterner

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Re: TODAYS OILS AND OLD BALLS
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2010, 11:58:10 PM »
I have a Jade Piranha/C that works great on our house pattern. I had to add a flare increasing hole to move the flare off the middle finger but otherwise the ball is box stock and a basic label drill.

My polished Black Phantom is one of my go to balls when the lanes get spotty.

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Re: TODAYS OILS AND OLD BALLS
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2010, 12:09:46 AM »
It would seem to me that provided a reactive ball was in good shape and wasn't more than 5 years old or so you could have the oil extracted by the use of a revivor, have the surface of the ball resurfaced by a haus machine, and leave the ball dull or smooth sanded, that it would work fine today. Maybe someone on this website would be kind enough to try this out and let us know.
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Re: TODAYS OILS AND OLD BALLS
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2010, 12:13:14 AM »
My Cuda/C holds up just fine. I've thrown it on PBAX shots. It's funny when you put it up on the rack and people look at you like you're nuts, then they're losing to it. haha
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Re: TODAYS OILS AND OLD BALLS
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2010, 02:10:37 AM »
I have a AZO Ultima RP that is one of my best on the THS, Wood on Synthetic.

At the Synthetic house I can get out a little more than the rest of the crowd play a little straighter a little longer, reaction is smooth easier to read and not as jumpy off dry as the newer stuff.

At the wooden house, I can get in more due to the amount of friction in the track area. Where I see guys with C-Systems and Virtual Energy and stuff like that just dying in all of that friction I have a smoother and easier reaction to control which when the dust settles allows me to carry better and score better...usually LOL.
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Re: TODAYS OILS AND OLD BALLS
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2010, 03:20:55 AM »

Couple of years ago i dug out my old Omega Acryllyium.. Plugged and redrilled it to fit my current span.. Surprisingly the ball was still a hook monster on a variety of patterns and surfaces..


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Re: TODAYS OILS AND OLD BALLS
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2010, 10:20:17 AM »
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It would seem to me that provided a reactive ball was in good shape and wasn't more than 5 years old or so you could have the oil extracted by the use of a revivor, have the surface of the ball resurfaced by a haus machine, and leave the ball dull or smooth sanded, that it would work fine today. Maybe someone on this website would be kind enough to try this out and let us know.


I am using equipment from 2000 (e .g. my Revolution Renegade), and old pieces are NOT outdated. IMHO, this is a myth - the dark force of marketing, the little voice that always tells you to buy another new ball, which will hook more, and another one...

I even have an orginal Blue Hammer with a label setup - it is a good dry lane ball today, but if you slow it down and play straight, it even works on an oilier shot these days, because it creates most of its friction though the surface prep, not the coverstock's porosity. It is just a matter of perspective, expectation and adjustments.
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