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supersid802

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too high of backswing
« on: November 27, 2008, 10:37:42 AM »
i'm a tournement bwoler and a 220 average bowler. i have a backswing, which makes my timing later, any tips on how to lower it?
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Re: too high of backswing
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2008, 06:54:17 PM »
ya.....lower it
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supersid802

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Re: too high of backswing
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2008, 06:58:36 PM »
um...and how would be the question...such as tips...lget9alot, shouldnt you go back to hiding back under bridge
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Spider Ball Bowler

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Re: too high of backswing
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2008, 07:00:10 PM »
You could just lower your ball in your stance.  If your swing is free and natural, your arm swing will decrease because the weight of the ball won't force it back so high.

If you force it back, then that's a whole other story, and I don't know what to tell you.
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Dan Belcher

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Re: too high of backswing
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2008, 07:04:36 PM »
It's possible that your backswing is artificially high from bending over too much at the waist while walking to the foul line.  If this is the case, try starting and staying a little more upright, and bend your knees rather than your waist to get a lower center of gravity as you get to the foul line.
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Re: too high of backswing
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2008, 08:14:02 PM »
Whatever the actual cause of the high backswing, don't forget that your foot speed and the timing of the arm position and your feet's positions (multiple spots) in/on the approach are tightly coupled or linked together. As soon as you change one, you have to change the other.

The simple answer is not to put so much muscle into the swing. You are using a lot of your shoulder and back muscles to lift the ball that high. Don't or use less. ( I told you it was simple. No, I'm not being a smart-*ss.)

The complex answer involves how to coordinate your feet with the new lowered armswing, so that the release point and your slide are still coordinated. I think it may not be proper to do this in words, but in person with a good coach.
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supersid802

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Re: too high of backswing
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2008, 08:20:12 PM »
i know if comes from having a muscled swing since i do hold the ball lower than wasit high, and yes i have been working on the leaning forward...i definatly dont do it as much, but my backswing is still high...so i guess the better question would be, how do i get out some of the muslce outta my swing
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Re: too high of backswing
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2008, 09:15:43 AM »
I went through the same problem as you a couple of months ago. The way I found to be the easiest was to just go in for some practice and while you are there work on keeping it down. Your goal is to make it feel as though the ball is like even with you knees at its highest point. It will feel weird but the ball will actually be higher than you think. Another easy way is to take a video recorder and watch yourself to see your improvement.

When I did this, I noticed a slight drop in speed and revs for about 10 games... now my speed is back where it was and my revs have actually increased. Also, if you have a problem of squeezing the ball at the bottom of your swing, this will help drastically. I used to squeeze and "knuckle" the ball a lot. Now, my release is much cleaner and because of that, I get more revs and the ball reaction is more consistent because I get the same amount of revs/speed every time I take a shot.
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supersid802

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Re: too high of backswing
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2008, 10:03:14 AM »
alright, thanks those who provided an answer. i will go try this stuff out saturday, nest time when i have time. heck, with how i have been bowling in league, i might as well go do it in league tonight
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supersid802

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Re: too high of backswing
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2008, 02:20:46 AM »
well i attempted to have a less lower backswing by less leaning, and trying to not get my backswing as high...i could definatly tell a difference on the balls were i wasnt leaning as much and wasnt forcing my backswing so high. the lanes were swirly today. on the left side carry down went crazy in the 2nd game so i was forced to square up inside with something with surface. not every ball was great, but definatly could see the improvement...thanks again
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Re: too high of backswing
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2008, 03:01:49 AM »
Hey my man if you're going to practice to work on a new aspect of your swing, I wouldn't worry too much about where you're throwing the ball on the lane.  Just work on what you need to do.

I can tell you when I was in the biggest slump and bowling like pooh, I taped myself and found my backswing to be way too high.  I was forcing the ball down at the top of my swing and it really messed me up.

One thing I would suggest, as others have said about the muscling the ball back into your swing, is to take your ball, hold it in your normal starting position, and push the ball up and out and let it fall.

If you have a 4 step, do it as soon as your first step starts going, 5 step, obviously on your 2nd step.  Let the weight of the ball do all the work for your swing.  If you push the ball up and out, somewhat in a circle, and let it fall back, then swing forward, the muscling will dissapear.

Go on youtube, and type in Parker Bohn instructional video.  I know he's a lefty and most likely you're not, but just watch what he does, it will help explain more of what I am talking about.

If your arm swing is free and loose, it is easier to repeat shots..
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Re: too high of backswing
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2008, 03:59:50 PM »
Ryan Sidnastyyyyyyy wassup babyyy ahahahaha. His backswing is not that high folks. He just needs to concentrate more and maybe not foul.

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Re: too high of backswing
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2008, 02:14:10 PM »
What's wrong with late timing? I thought most pros wait on the ball at the top of the swing to achieve late timing...

Most of the time it's from leaning forward past your waist line. If that's the case and you can correct it, it shouldn't affect your timing much anyway since your swing plane will still be as long from point to point.
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supersid802

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Re: too high of backswing
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2008, 05:39:11 PM »
never said there is nothing wrong with late timing...late timing is good, but too late of timing is a bad thing that leads to the ball being pitched out, tugged in, turning the ball early, or a huge cut in revs. im still working on the leaning thing...the more i bowl, the more i have to stay aware of when i lean
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Re: too high of backswing
« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2008, 07:46:21 PM »
if the high backswing isnt hurting your game, why change it? your already averaging 220. i have a high back swing as well and people always tell me to lower it, but who are they to tell me to lower my swing if it works for me? if its not broken, don't fix it. just my 2 cents.
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