What happened? Someone got their feelings hurt? Can't discuss the lousy Usbc here? I wouldn't care if they folded. Another sanctioning group will take over. People act like we need them, they need us and that's how it works. A member suggested to them to raise the fee....ok..what if another member suggested to lower the fee? Give me a break. This is and was the worst organization that ever tan bowling. Again, its not the 5 bucks, or 1 dollar..its we got nothing in the past and now they want more for doing less.
It's a joke and the joke us on the bowlers. When is the last time the Usbc inspected a lane at anyone of your locations? Case closed.

Why is it ok to give them an increase? Because they did such a great job with the money they had in the past? NOT! Why reward them for poor performance? Do you really think the extra money cash will make them spend it wiser? They spent what they had foolishly in the past why would it now be different?
If the government raised your taxes would you be happy with that? When gas goes up 10 cents is that ok to? Just give it your money because someone asks for it....Thats the attitude I see here. And I bet 90% of those are Clinton supporters.

Yet again, describe SPECIFIC examples of "poor performance" and how they have "spent foolishly." You clearly think they suck all the way around, so what SPECIFIC issues do you have. All you've done so far is make blanket statements over and over again.

Why is it ok to give them an increase? Because they did such a great job with the money they had in the past? NOT! Why reward them for poor performance? Do you really think the extra money cash will make them spend it wiser? They spent what they had foolishly in the past why would it now be different?
If the government raised your taxes would you be happy with that? When gas goes up 10 cents is that ok to? Just give it your money because someone asks for it....Thats the attitude I see here. And I bet 90% of those are Clinton supporters.

So what answers do you get from the service station when you demand to know where they are going to spend that extra $.10 a gallon?

While I do understand that delegates are how we voice our opinions, if you've been to these then you would know that while they listen somewhat, local voices do not carry the agenda. not, probably should they as nothing would ever get done.But thanks for trying to point out what I was trying to say in just a general sense

The delegates vote on the proposed amendments. That's your local association voice.

You can't hold the USBC responsible for the great majority of bowling centers being very poorly run businesses. 

Gene,
How many members did USBC have ten years ago compared to the roughly one million we have today?

Based on those losses, does USBC bear responsibility for some percentage of that loss and if so, how much?

Where you see value, I can find no quantitative evidence to support your claim. On the other hand, there is a mountain of data showing massive failure in terms of attracting/retaining members so I can only assume you think the USBC bears no responsibility.

When bowling memberships were at their highest, what did ABC/WIBC do to get them there?  The only reduced "value" a member has now compared to the heyday is the loss of awards.  So if you are trying to say the loss of awards has led to the loss of memberships, then that is your opinion. 

But let's be honest, USBC provides a ton more service to its members than it ever has.  If you don't see this then you haven't tried.

I think I finally got it, but just to make sure. The USBC bears no responsibility for declines in membership and without their phenomenal programs we would have even lower membership numbers?   

That's the most delusional thing I've heard on this entire thread...

I have to ask, why do you bowl leagues?

Quote from: milorafferty on January 28, 2016, 02:54:18 PM

Quote from: morpheus on January 28, 2016, 02:50:33 PM

I think I finally got it, but just to make sure. The USBC bears no responsibility for declines in membership and without their phenomenal programs we would have even lower membership numbers?   

That's the most delusional thing I've heard on this entire thread...

I have to ask, why do you bowl leagues?

I love to compete and the challenge of the sport.

Okay, fair enough.