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dR3w

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Tournament Rules interpretation
« on: November 20, 2015, 11:14:56 AM »
I have a question for the masses.  I bowled in a tournament recently, and felt that the rules of the tournament were not applied correctly. 

Here are the 2 rules that are relevant:

1.  Format - Round 1 - All teams bowl 15 games across 15 lanes using the Baker System scoring method.  The top 1/2 of the field will advance to the 2nd round.

2. Round 2 - All teams bowl 5 games with the top 5 teams advancing to a step-ladder roll-off.  The top 5 teams will be ranked on their 20 game totals. 


My question is, based on the rules presented above, what criteria do you think is used to determine who makes the 3rd round, or step-ladder roll-off?


 

JohnP

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Re: Tournament Rules interpretation
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2015, 11:52:04 AM »
"The top 5 teams will be ranked on their 20 game totals."

This sounds fairly clear-cut to me.  Total pins for all 20 games determines the 5 teams advancing.  How was it interpreted?  --  JohnP

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Re: Tournament Rules interpretation
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2015, 12:18:57 PM »
My guess would be that they dropped pins for the teams that made the first cut and then used the 20 game totals to position the top 5 teams from the 2nd round.

I would read it like JohnP, though, and say 20 game totals to determine cut. 

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Re: Tournament Rules interpretation
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2015, 12:24:17 PM »

2. Round 2 - All teams bowl 5 games with the top 5 teams advancing to a step-ladder roll-off.  The top 5 teams will be ranked on their 20 game totals. 


They would take the top 5 teams of the 2nd round and then rank those 5 teams (1 to 5) then using their 20 game total.

and use that ranking for placement in the stepladder finals.


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mrwizerd

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Re: Tournament Rules interpretation
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2015, 12:52:17 PM »
I interpret those rules as follows:  round 1 is for survival, i.e. just be in the top 1/2 of the field and round 2 doesn't state anything about pin carryover, which means everyone starts over and the top 5 scoring teams from round 2 scores only would move on to the step ladder finals.  The seeding for the step ladder final would be determined by the 20 game totals.

Based on some of the other comments these rules are not as clear cut as they would seem.

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Re: Tournament Rules interpretation
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2015, 04:17:55 PM »
Looks pretty straight forward as I read it...  Bowl 15 games..  Make a cut, drop scores...  Bowl 5 games....  Top 5 from round 2 scores make step ladder with seeding based on all 20 games from the day..

Bowl a scratch tournament series that does this (scratchbowling.com)..  This is their format:

"Qualifying: 6-games across 6 pairs of lanes.
Match Play: Cut to top 16 (based on 61-120 entries), then bowlers are seeded into a bracket. 2-game matches until top 4 remain. Stepladder for Top 4."

Seeds are usually determined by 6 game qualifying score and any match play scores bowled (excluding scores bowled in rounds with a bye)

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Re: Tournament Rules interpretation
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2015, 09:06:01 PM »
I would argue that unless it specifies scores are to be dropped ( which is not uncommon ) then the first 15 game scores should have carried over to the second round.  I have seen it done both ways, but they always clearly specify the first round scores will be dropped when that is the case.