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Fatboy8

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something crazy!!!
« on: May 22, 2004, 06:59:54 PM »
I went to my local house yesterday to do some summer practicing, and I saw a crazy display. A boy next to me, about 16 or so, threw a helacious backup ball. Now, I've seen some women throw a backup, but this was a balls to the wall-hard as he can throw backup. It worked pretty good, he was averaging like 160+ with it and it hit pretty hard. I was just surprised cause I've never seen a man or boy throw a backup that often. Anyone else see this often or is it not that rare?
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Re: something crazy!!!
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2004, 10:00:31 PM »
one of the people on my team throws a backup ball.

he stands basically at the left gutter, about a foot from the line, holding the ball about chin height.

starts his backswing, steps with his right foot, behind his left foot, jumps up in the air slightly, swings his left foot out a bit, and lays it down about 3 or 4 boards from the channel and watches it come back.  it's really.  interesting.

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Re: something crazy!!!
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2004, 08:43:23 AM »
I use to bowl with a kid in high school on our team that was right handed, stood in front of the right gutter and hand a HELLACIOUS full blow inside out with his body and the ball had the hook of Jason Couch being thrown by a left hander.  This kid averaged about 185 with it, till his elbow started to go

Last I knew of him he was about a 175 bowling the correct way but you could see right at the line his body tries to turn but he forces it the other way, which is just a muscled release and hooks like mad with no speed.  Sad, he could have been good if he threw it the right way to begin with.  He had awesome accuracy for being 16 years old.
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Ernie McCracken

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Re: something crazy!!!
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2004, 09:00:23 AM »
We have a local here who throws a backup ball and he averages 200.  One of the best senior players in our area from what I hear.
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Re: something crazy!!!
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2004, 01:49:14 PM »
If you can master it, go for it.  Less play on the left side, generally.  And with todays equipment and lane conditions favoring the "dumpers", you wouldn't have to rev it up enough to rip your elbow in half.

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Re: something crazy!!!
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2004, 02:03:11 PM »
A kid on my team Bowls with a backup ball. He stands pretty far left, and just lets it rip. The odd thing is, he can throw a normal ball too, to pick up those pesky 7 and 4 pins. We have tried for years to fix his style, but he averages around 160 with it. Everyone has their own style I suppose. Another weird thing is we have a bowler on our team as well that bowls two handed....hmmm I'm starting to think it might be our team...

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Re: something crazy!!!
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2004, 03:09:44 PM »
Bowled in a tourney one year where a guy was a righty who could throw a traditional hook on the right, or a hell of a backup ball on the left.

At the time he believed the leftside was friendlier.  That day he threw in a tourney, 300- 806 righty throwing his backup ball.

As tournaments have gone to either FTL= Flood the lefty, or a hard transition(which blends out more quickly on the right) I saw him bowl more and more on the right.  In fact I don't know when I saw him last throw the backup ball on the left.

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Re: something crazy!!!
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2004, 03:49:39 PM »
Went to a local scratch tournament where some of the toughest bowlers in the region compete (including Tony Reyes when he's not on the national Tour) and saw a guy throwing a backup ball.  I was laughing until someone told me that the guy averages 230+ throwing a backup and was high average in the local association a few years ago.

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Re: something crazy!!!
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2004, 04:09:28 PM »
A tourney I went to, I saw a guy doing it who you would never suspect LOL. It was this big tall black kid, must have been 6 foot tall, picked up right side spares with a back up ball. I am actually fooling around with it to pick up 10 pins and such, especially on a dry shot.
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Re: something crazy!!!
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2004, 04:53:33 PM »
Nah, wasn't Murtishaw.  I forget his name, but he bowls out of San Francisco.  I'll get back to you if I remember his name.

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Re: something crazy!!!
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2004, 04:59:32 PM »
I will really screw with ur head I play with a guy who is left handed and throw's a back up ball and averages 180.

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Re: something crazy!!!
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2004, 11:51:55 PM »
My mom through her 25 year plus career as a bowler until she stopped about 7 years ago always threw a back up ball. Had a high average of around 188 I believe at her peak, a number of 240-250 games and her high series was 670 I believe. Had a number of all spare games to her credit as well.

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Re: something crazy!!!
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2004, 12:11:44 AM »
Hey Minimum Bob,

I believe the bowler you're thinking about is Tom SoBeck(bowled pot against him for yrs).  He's a righty that's about deuce from the right side but the house he bowls at Serra Bowl in Colma, CA. is SO walled up on the leftside, he bowls backup there and even beats the other wrongsiders there.  Every lefty with 2 revs has shot a 300 in this house, it's unreal.  A very good scratch bowler who organizes tournaments there has to purposely mess the left side up just so the righties have a chance.  This is also the house that the PBA made a stop at about 4-5 years ago(during CBS) and even then the top 5 had 4 lefties and J. Hromek fudging it a ton to compete.  Sobeck's a good bowler but we're even on most shots until it comes to this house....

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Re: something crazy!!!
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2004, 03:58:38 PM »
Rick,

You're right, it's Sobeck.  I saw him try to throw from the right side at another tournament and it was UGLY.  You can't be serious that he's 200+ from the right...?!
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Re: something crazy!!!
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2004, 04:47:03 PM »
Hey Minimum,

On the THS he is.  He is much better throwing the back-up but it's mainly the house, Serra Bowl.  It's so ditched on the left it's not funny.  There's actually a group of lefties that just sit around and wait for action to come in so they can have an advantage.  They won't go anywhere else to bowl, I call them spiders...

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