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Coolerman

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Will online retailers go under because of MAP ?
« on: January 24, 2011, 04:14:45 AM »
Why Manufacturers Enforce MAP







There are many reasons why manufacturers may impose such pricing policies:







* Manufacturers want to protect brand image, which discounting can work against for premium brands and new, innovative products



* High margin is an incentive for retailers (who are the manufacturer’s extended sales force) to promote these items more than others (although without the ability to offer price breaks, it’s harder to incentivize consumers to buy)



* Maintaining MAP or MSRP maintains retail value so manufacturers can retain wholesale pricing



* To prevent bargain basement retailers from underselling other resellers of the product (who may discontinue selling these brands or complain to the manufacturer)







MAP doesn’t necessarily apply forever, especially for seasonal products or categories like consumer electronics where new models are constantly hitting the market. But under a MAP policy, a product must be sold at a MSRP (Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Price) until the manufacturer permits a markdown.



How MAP Affects Retailers







Some retailers will benefit from the level-playing field (smaller retailers, those with higher operational costs or lower efficiency and retailers with a reputation for excellent customer service), and enjoy extra margin to boot. Though certain industries will suffer, especially in this economy, as sales velocity doesn’t occur until the price moves South. For example, HomeCenter.com reports certain price-sensitive product lines sell $150,000 per month when discounted vs. $10,000 when sold at MAP.







Another downside is inventory costs. If in this economy, people are hanging on to their older model consumer electronics rather than buying the latest models, that inventory is going to back up. Without the ability to markdown, the retailer must deal with the stale stock. The manufacturer has received its money, but also loses as it won’t be refilling inventory for resellers.







And as with any rule, MAP is bound to be broken. Online retailers are already using “click to see price” in pop-up windows, “add to cart to see price” and “email for quote” tactics. Retailers who take the high road and adhere to MAP pricing often find themselves forced to lower prices to compete, or honoring price-matches once discounters run out of product.







Break MAP at Your Own Risk







Technically, concealing price from product pages is akin to a brick-and-mortar store showing one sticker price, and a salesperson verbally offering a price break to a customer in-store. It’s not an advertised price, nor a displayed price. But that raises the question — if it’s not advertised in email, PPC, shopping engine or other promotional material — is showing a sub-MAP price on a product page really “advertising”?







Retailers who walk this thin line must be careful not to let these prices slip through data feeds and into shopping engines, search engines or any other promotion. Even with diligence, it’s easy to get caught breaking MAP. Spy firms like NetEnforcers Inc charge upwards of $100,000 per month to mystery shop online retailers on behalf of manufacturers and have already caught many in the act. Offenders are notified by NetEnforcers to correct pricing which is typically restored within a few hours. If the seller is not a licensed dealer, the seller may be slapped with copyright infringement.



Alternative Incentives to Discounts







Most manufacturers don’t balk when retailers offer free shipping, gift with purchase, gift cards with purchase or a % off an additional, non-MAP protected item when promoting a MAP item. So long as the dollar value of the product is not reduced, everything’s cool. Offering coupon codes is another way to reduce the price without reducing the price, but be very careful that you don’t advertise the coupon to be applied to the MAP product (that would be advertising). To be safe, if you’re offering a coupon code, always mention which items are excluded from the promotion. For example, Austad’s has a special landing page that lists all the excluded brands and a brief explanation at the bottom:







What About the Consumer?







Obviously consumers don’t like paying more for products, especially in this economy where people expect everything to be on sale. (On the flip-side, if consumers stop buying non-essentials, however discounted, they actually come out ahead).







Consumers skilled at online comparison shopping might be frustrated to find no price breaks (with the exceptions of retailers who break MAP or on factory refurbished products), or may hunt out free shipping offers and other incentives. Comparison engines that display the total cost including taxes and shipping will aid these customers, as will those that provide seller ratings to help them decide who to ultimately buy from.







Internet Retailer raised the question “will consumers continue to shop the Web if they can’t get better deals online than in store?” and cite research by Forrester, the e-tailing group and Carnegie-Mellon University:







* 49% of counsumers shop online for convenience, 46% for selection and 43% for value (Forrester)



* Price was important to 80% of online shoppers, but ranked fifth among benefits of shopping online (e-tailing group)



* Online consumers are willing to pay $1.72 more on average to buy books from brand-name retailers than unfamiliar merchants (Carnegie-Mellon)







“I don’t see it leading to a mass exodus from the Internet, because lower price isn’t the dominant reason people get value from the Internet,” says Carnegie-Mellon professor Michael Smith. “But taking away the little guys’ pricing advantage will strengthen the hand of the large players.”







In this economy, manufacturers of premium brands and non-essential products (purchases which can be deferred without severe loss of standard of living) likely have to give a little, and remove restrictions earlier. So the whole MAP thing might not be as much of a headache for retailers after all.





 
Edited by Coolerman on 1/24/2011 at 1:15 PM

 

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Re: Will online retailers go under because of MAP ?
« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2011, 09:13:41 AM »

 Good point.... And my point was, I won a bid on Ebay for a R-7 driver that was a fraud...A local Golf Dist. here in Il bought a large amount of Titleist golf balls on Ebay... If I remember the story correctly, it was 20 thousand dz...  They were fake... He got sued...  You can google the story...  Titleist sues over fake balls bought on ebay...
Around 2006...
 
Therefore I would trust anything in golf being sold as new on Ebay for real low prices...
 
Now $359 in about 10 % off... That is pretty normal with many pro shops in the industry...However no one runs ads for that online or in newspapers...  Have never seen a R-11 or a CG-15 advertised for lower...  The CG-15 were on sale before Christmas... 3 for $299...   But that ended 12-31-10...
 
No where online do I see them for less...   Not talking about anything you see on Ebay...  Cause I don't trust anything in golf being sold there...  Talking about Online pro shops... TGW, Edwin Watts, Dicks, Golfsmith, Golf Galaxy,  etc etc etc... R-11 is $399, CG 15 is $119, Titleist Pro V1's are $39.95... etc etc...
 
That is my point...  Most of the items sold on Ebay are probably from  a person selling rather than a shop...Therefore hard or impossible to enforce...
 
But I do not believe you will find any of the above golf shops advertising them online for less... and I check daily...
 
And the last golf show I had this very same conversation with the Cleveland rep... I told him that by spring I will be buying those CG 15 wedges for about $69-$79... He told me, "no way"   We shall see...Especially now that the CG 16 wedges are out...
scotts33 wrote on 1/26/2011 9:17 AM:These are TM R-11's  not counterfeit.for $349 with free shipping.  You said "Just check out the R-11 driver and post who online is selling it lower."  MAP from TM is $399.00.  I just showed you that many dealers are selling TM R-11 drivers for $349.  That's lower than MAP.  Hence yes TM, Cleveland and other major brands are selling lower than their MAP pricing.  Ping is the ONLY major brand that enforces MAP.  That's my point.

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Re: Will online retailers go under because of MAP ?
« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2011, 09:20:05 AM »
Most electronics companies do the same thing talking about gray market goods. Trying to scare people from buying electronics online, or ebay, from unauthorized dealers. Problems is when you have too much stuff on the market at a price that doesn't sell these places have to get rid of it. Lots of places do it to unload merchandise so they can order more and keep their quantity pricing. They do it online instead of in store so they don't have any problems with selling at just above cost.

 

Bowling proshops would be no different, and maybe some distributors. If at some point you have stuff you need to unload at cost or less you can put it online and move it quickly on ebay or where ever and be on to the next new thing. Kinda like the Mission 2.0, they replaced it with the Domination in a matter of just over a month to two . No one is talking about the 2.0, and I imagine sales are not pretty either. There are plenty of distributors and maybe shops that will have to unload those eventually because even online at $145 that ball doesn't sale.

 

With price minimums your stuck with it until it is ok to close it out and by then the value of the ball will be very low and someone will be suffering some losses.


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scotts33

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Re: Will online retailers go under because of MAP ?
« Reply #18 on: January 26, 2011, 09:21:52 AM »
jls--We'll just agree to disagree.  Since, I have been in the business for 30+ years I have seen MAP pricing come and go.  To think that golf s in a better MAP pricing situation than bowling is....I think golf is worse than bowling.  Ball manufacturers stick up for their pro shops in general way more than golf club manufacturer take car of the fitters/pro shops.

Scott

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Re: Will online retailers go under because of MAP ?
« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2011, 09:34:36 AM »

 Scott,  I don't think we are disagreeing  here at all...  I see clubs on Ebay at the prices you mentioned... I just no longer trust the sellers...  And like I said, I can walk into a golf shop right down the street and probably buy a R-11 for about $319...  All I'm saying is I don't see anyone advertising them in newspapers or Online for less...Speaking about the major Golf online sites....
 
I send customers to this shop all the time who are looking for clubs...This shop will always beat the price of the online shops or the big BOX shops... But his stuff is the real McCoy...I don't trust anything on ebay anymore...
 
To many times I have seen a $399 driver on Ebay for $179...  I don't trust them at tall.... To many fakes being made by our friends in China...  These stories have been published online as well as in several leading golf magazines...  Recently saw one about Titleist golf bags...
 
Check out that story about the fake Pro V1's I told you about....
 
Cam Gold Owner sued By Titleist over fake golf balls... From 2006 I believe...He bought them on Ebay...
 
Now Scott,  If you see the CG 15's for $69-$79 before I do, Please let me know...
 
 
Thanks
scotts33 wrote on 1/26/2011 10:21 AM:jls--We'll just agree to disagree.  Since, I have been in the business for 30+ years I have seen MAP pricing come and go.  To think that golf s in a better MAP pricing situation than bowling is....I think golf is worse than bowling.  Ball manufacturers stick up for their pro shops in general way more than golf club manufacturer take car of the fitters/pro shops.

Scott



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