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CG_Matters

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Overall...which is more ball?
« on: October 13, 2006, 02:28:05 AM »
Having a debate right now on a SCB replacement....

The balls that are being discussed are as follows...
ROBO RULE
SCORCHIN
TOTAL SHOCK & AWE
AWESOME HOOK

High load particle is preferred, but there just isn't much on the market that's a higher load.  Feel free to add any other balls as suggestions.  Also...if you know where I could get my hands on a NIB SCB (with good specs) I just may take you up on that offer.

 

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Re: Overall...which is more ball?
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2006, 10:40:17 AM »
Well, I'll chime in here. From what I've seen, the Total Shock & Awe, in box finish, is the grabbiest ball I've ever seen. Mine literally took out the 4-pin the first time I threw it on my normal strike line. Since then, I've polished it up to make it a viable option on a more frequent basis.

The Robo Rule looked good when I've seen it. It's rare to see a particle ball have as much continuation on the backend as that one does.

The Awesome Hook loooks like a good ball, but I don't think it's as strong as the Total Shock & Awe or Robo. It will get down the lane further and offer a sharper backend look. So, if you want the ball for heavy oil, that probably wouldn't be the choice.

Lastly, the Scorchin' looks like a decent oiler, but, again, I don't think it holds a candle to the Total Shock or Robo.

I guess what I'm saying is that I would suggest going with the Total Shock & Awe or Robo Rule. Personally, because I have one that I love, I would go with the Total Shock. I prefer resin to particle. Plus, I think the Total Shock offers more versatility. If you polish it up, the ball becomes a medium heavy condition backend monster!

However, if you truly like particle balls more, then I would go with the only particle that you have listed there, the Robo Rule.

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Re: Overall...which is more ball?
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2006, 10:50:36 AM »
The Goliath and forth-coming Mammoth are both high-load particles.  The AMB Particle is also a high-load (and high-diff) particle ball.  If you can find a GP2, that's got a high load as well.  The Robo is a low-load particle, and the Scorchin' isn't a particle ball at all.  A lot of people on the Track forum really liked the Robo, though, even in heavier oil.

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Re: Overall...which is more ball?
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2006, 10:52:39 AM »
If you really want a particle cover hook monster -- wait for the new Brunswick BVP Mammoth -- Activator coverstock with particle, new, lower rg core...plus, it's cheaper than all the ones you listed!

Out of the ones you listed, I really don't think the Awesome Hook is a good SCB replacement.  It has a lot of backend continuation, even in heavy oils, but it does not pick up quite as early.

The Robo might work if you kick the MB out farther to your VAL, which should get the ball into a forward roll a bit sooner.  The Scorchin and the Total Shock & Awe might be close also...have you considered a Seek & Destroy?  I have one, drilled stacked leverage, and it handles the heaviest oil I see.  Never had a problem not getting the ball to hook.

Just to wrap up though -- in my personal opinion, for a true SCB replacement, wait for the Mammoth.
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Re: Overall...which is more ball?
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2006, 10:53:29 AM »
I keep my Robo Rule as oob and feel its the best scoring ball I have ever owned on oil. I can tell when I start to leave 10 pins its time to put it in the bag.

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Re: Overall...which is more ball?
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2006, 10:56:29 AM »
The Robo, with the Robo Core, is exactly what the other poster said...the earliest rolling ball I have ever seen that continues as much as this ball does....it comes out of box at 800 grit and the low load particle cover is a perfect combo.

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Re: Overall...which is more ball?
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2006, 11:28:41 PM »
Seek and Destroy, particle with the same core as the TS&A
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Re: Overall...which is more ball?
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2006, 11:44:54 PM »
I would say, go with a Robo Rule for a heavier oiled shot that has some carrydown on it. The Robo takes carrydown very well.

If you don't go Robo, then i would go Mean Machine, and that would be for heavier oil, with cleaner backends.

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Re: Overall...which is more ball?
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2006, 11:56:52 PM »
If the TSA is the heavy oiler, why is it listed medium-light and the S&A rated med/hvy? I know the charts aren't always accurate, but there is a big difference between med-light and heavy.
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Re: Overall...which is more ball?
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2006, 12:26:37 AM »
I would have to vote for the TSA personally.  I have a BW drilled fairly strong & shined up a bit.  First game of league at 1 center im at, the BW wont move at all unless i play up 5ish.  The TSA at 1200 wet sanded flat out HOOKS on that shot.  I play about 17-8 with it, & it hits like a TRUCK.  OOB the ball hooked off my hand, first shot was in the ditch at about 45ft.

& BTM still shows the TSA as being the most hooking ball released.


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Re: Overall...which is more ball?
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2006, 10:30:30 AM »
TSA by a mile. This ball will hook the second you put it on the lane and it will keep continuing. That was on a Medium/heavy shot. I have polished this ball and it still needs at least Medium/Heavy oil when its polished. This thing needs 2 tons of oil on the lane and it is by far the best oiler I have thrown or seen thrown.

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Re: Overall...which is more ball?
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2006, 10:34:24 AM »
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TSA by a mile. This ball will hook the second you put it on the lane and it will keep moving  for 60ft. That was on a Medium/heavy shot. This thing needs 2 tons of oil on the lane and it is by far the best oiler I have thrown or seen thrown.


I dunno, the Awesome Hook is pretty beast as well. But I would agree that it's between the Morich TSA and AH... No doubt that those are way more ball than the Scorchin' and the Robo.

I've owned or thrown them all... The AH and TSA are pretty hard to choose between.
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Re: Overall...which is more ball?
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2006, 11:42:39 AM »
I was very impressed with the TS&A when I saw it thrown. It is much better in oil than the Awesome Hook...Mo will tell you that himself.


SO...I did a test a while backRemember, the TS&A is 400abralon, the Robo Rule OOB is 800) Robo Rule with the same OOB finish as the TS&A. The Robo was just as early rolling and I feel it was more continuous in the backend than the TS&A.

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