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sudinimpact

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USBC membership question
« on: May 13, 2009, 09:27:40 AM »
I have a lot of older, not real competitive bowlers whom don't see the sense of paying $16 a year for USBC membership.  Does anyone know if half the league can be members and the other half not?  I tried to email my USBC rep here in St. Louis but he has pushed me off and decided not to answer.
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Re: USBC membership question
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2009, 05:56:26 PM »
You cannot sanction only half the bowlers.  You have sanction the whole league if any of the bowlers want to be sanctioned.
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sudinimpact

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Re: USBC membership question
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2009, 06:00:25 PM »
Gotcha, thanks.
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DON DRAPER

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Re: USBC membership question
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2009, 09:47:29 PM »
many senior leagues around here are not sanctioned so as to save the participants a little cash and to allow players between the ages of 50 and 55 to compete.
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Re: USBC membership question
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2009, 10:17:53 PM »
sudinimpact: This should answer the question. If the league is sanctioned all
members have to be sanctioned also.

101. Membership Fee Payment Requirements
 To be eligible to bowl in a USBC league, a bowler must:
a.   Complete an individual membership application in each league the bowler participates in.
b.   Pay or show proof of payment of USBC dues and the required association membership fees in effect for the current season before:

1.   Adult membership – completion of the bowler’s first series.

 Any team using a player who has not satisfied USBC membership eligibility requirements subjects the games in which the bowler participated to forfeiture.

 

GREG HOPPE:  
This rule very few people know about. If part 2 is put in the bylaws of the league, it opens up the league to all ages as long as one spouse
is at least 55.

100h. Senior
 

A senior league is composed of participants who are 55 years of age or over. USBC league rules shall apply to all USBC senior leagues, in addition to the following:

1.   Senior league bowlers are eligible for all USBC awards and services.

2.   A senior league may, by rule, allow bowlers 50 years of age and older, and members’ spouses under the age of 55 to compete in the league.
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DON DRAPER

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Re: USBC membership question
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2009, 10:35:53 PM »
thinkyoung, what if none of  the 4 members on a mixed senior team were married....would everyone have to be 55 or over ?
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sudinimpact

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Re: USBC membership question
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2009, 03:14:01 PM »
The problem is that I have a variety of bowlers aged 21-70.  75% of bowlers don't care about the USBC and don't participate in other leagues or tournaments, and they really don't see the sense in paying $16 just to get a 200 game patch.  I see where they are coming from and the bowling alley doesn't require the league to be sanctioned.
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Re: USBC membership question
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2009, 03:20:38 PM »
Sounds to me like you should just run an unsanctioned league and let everyone know it will be so before entering.

  That would give the remaining 25% the choice to either enter or not. I like bowling and I like competition and fellowship with my friends. The U.S.B.C. and its membership/benefits are only a secondary thing for me. It really doesn't matter to me if I am sanctioned or not.

  At one point, there was a time when I did care, but since the changes in policies and the limiting of awards to bowlers, I really don't see much benefit, especially when our local association gives its own awards for "special" achievments. Our center even had a "300" ring made for a member whose award score was turned down because his sanction card hadn't been processed yet.
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Re: USBC membership question
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2009, 03:32:16 PM »
Sanction fee over a 35 week season comes to about .50 cents a week per bowler. That by itself is worth the bonding of prize funds(and people do run off with them). If you don't have a price fund to worry about just let the league vote on whether to sanction or not.
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Re: USBC membership question
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2009, 03:34:10 PM »
The benefits to certification...

For the cost of $15 to $20 for certification you get way more than you put in even though there are a lot of nay sayers out there..

http://www.bowl.com/whyamember/main.aspx

Check out the link... Some will dispute some of this, but as a local association board member (under the age of 35) I can attest to that fact that certifying is worth the money...

Also check out the bowl.com and the Member rewards area on the right side... It is full of businesses that will give you discounts because you are a member of the USBC (its like AARP but less politically involved)...

I have a friend that is saving $12.00 a month on their T-Mobile bill because they are a member of USBC...  Lets see - $12.00 X 12Months = $144 a year... take out the $20.00 certification fees - you still have a savings of over $124 a year...  


Ultimately it is up to your league to certify or not...So that you know - The USBC research and development committee is working on a Senior Certification plan... look for that in 2010 or 2011 (I know it doesn't help now..)

If you have any question - please PM me and I can help you out as much as I can...

KF

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Re: USBC membership question
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2009, 06:19:38 PM »
We are bowling an unsanctioned league this summer - for the very first time...

On the way to the center last week, we voted that every spare was worth 43 pins plus count instead of 10, and that opens were worth 57 pins.

Perfect game is now 1200.

In a non-certified league - who is to say any different?
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Re: USBC membership question
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2009, 11:40:39 PM »
Some of the pit falls of NON sanctioned leagues is

1. no basic rules
2. no prize fund protection
3. no awards
......and this is kind of a sleeper

4. no officer format so one person basically can totally control a league.  No President, no Sec/Tres, no Team Captains....just one person calling all the shots with no opportunity for any opposition no  matter what happens.

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