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crankncrash

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Two handed release
« on: August 09, 2007, 06:56:37 AM »
hi all,

I am thinking of going 2 handed for this upcoming season. Reason being that my wrist has been a problem for 3 years running and I am sick of it.  Every year I lose a month to wrist injury and lose 2months of any decent scores.  So does anybody have a couple of vids of the guy who does it on tour? Palerma or whatever, he obviously has mastered it and I would like to watch more and learn from what he does.
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shelley

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Re: Two handed release
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2007, 03:03:12 PM »
It might be more beneficial to go down in weight than radically change styles to the taunts from your teammates.  If you're one of those "16# is for manly men like me!" guys, dropping to 15# should help reduce the wrist strain.  "Oh, it'll screw up my timing or I'll overthrow it" doesn't fly, as a radical change in your release will be even harder to become accustomed to.

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Dan Belcher

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Re: Two handed release
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2007, 03:05:27 PM »
Despite many people hating them, wearing a Robby's wrist support has kept my wrist from any pain the past several years, plus its made my release more consistent.  (It also doubled the amount of hook I get because I have a weak wrist that broke back no matter what I did during my release)
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Russell

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Re: Two handed release
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2007, 03:36:44 PM »
Not to mention wrist pain could be caused by a problem with your grip.....

The two handed release is very powerful, but requires someone to be very athletic to effectively execute it.

Palaarma is in his early 20s and already having some back issues from what I understand....
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crankncrash

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Re: Two handed release
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2007, 07:33:51 PM »
I have already dropped to 14lbs, and am only 22 a pretty athletic guy, so I'm not too worried about that issue, I don't really see any reason it should cause any more stress than my current release.   I hit the ball anywhere from 275rpm when I kill it up to 450rpm when I release it hard.  My issue is I HAVE to go around the ball because of my wrist, it absolutely kills me when I go up the back.  I can't really adjust anything do to that.  I tried out the 2 handed release one night and wasn't all that bad and after watching palermaa more I think I may be able to do it effectively.  O and BTW I could give a crap less what others think/say about my game as long as I take their money.  I used to be the up the boards guy that just scored and people didn't like because I had the "easy" shot with fewer revs and bumping it off the dry.  Then I hurt my wrist and can't do that anymore so I turned to getting off the side of the ball and now I hear that I hook it too much.  Well I don't care anymore, its not how its how many. If you can knock down more pins, you win.

Dan, I tried the robby's and yeah it releaves some of the pain, but it really makes me inconsistant and I personally hate it.

Russell, I work with a reputable proshop and have tinkered with a bunch of grips. To be honest my injury is a result of a grip that was too long, now I just can't do it.

I don't know if its a knee jerk decision, but I really think the 2 handed release will take pressure off my wrist and if I can do it I think it can work.
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backswing_aplenty

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Re: Two handed release
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2007, 02:51:23 AM »
More power to you crank, the 2-handed release just takes a little longer to master than 1 hand, and you will have to have the dedication to work on it correctly as a tool for striking not going coast to coast.  You will also need to have the cooperation of your local QUALIFIED proshop to help you with some of the more exotic drillings often need for higher rev, slower speed, 2-handers.
 
As for the pain, have you taken an extended period of time off from bowling and have you seen a doctor about the wrist.  If is that bad that you've had to drop weight something serious might be going on.  I would worry about that first before changing every aspect of your game.


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Re: Two handed release
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2007, 02:54:40 AM »
well It looks like I will be the only one to actually fulfill your request.
http://www.oskupalermaa.fi/

its in fin to start but if you click the British flag @ the top it will switch to English...

this guy is NUTS

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apocalyptic_rabbit

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Re: Two handed release
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2007, 03:05:16 AM »
Also http://www.jasonbelmonte.com/JasonsStyle.html


There is a video here of Jason Belmonte, another great 2hander

One thing of note, both of these guys say they have been dong it as babies (their parents owning bowlingalleys and them throwing from toddler age.

to them it is natural, trying to develop it  (in about a months time as thats when leagues start) is going to be EXTREMELY difficult, if not impossible.

If you do go for it tho, let us know how it turns out.

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Siniak

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Re: Two handed release
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2007, 06:09:49 AM »
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TWOHAND834

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Re: Two handed release
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2007, 06:41:01 AM »
Believe it or not, I switched to the 2 hand method after bowling with one hand for 12 years.  I averaged 210 before the switch.  But, I was way too one-dimensional with the 1 handed release.  It took me a couple months of practicing before I could pick up spares on a consistent basis.  For the learning curve, give it a good couple months to gain full confidence unless you have already tried this for awhile and just debating on the switch.  Best of luck to you on this.
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crankncrash

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Re: Two handed release
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2007, 09:53:45 AM »
To answer the question, yes I took a full year and a half off before going back to bowling.  3 months later I was done again for 6 months, I have seen a wrist specialist on a couple of different occasions, he explained that my ulner bone is slightly longer than average, and this causes me to knick the cartilidge in my wrist when I throw it causing pain, the up the back of the ball pain he attributes to tendinitis, but I can't make that go away for the life of me so I think he may be full of bunk on that. Any who, I just want to bowl, be it successful or not for a bit and not hurt myself.  I have a great driller that would be able to lay stuff out for me and I was already a high rev guy so I don't think there will be too much to it.   Thank you guys for the extra links there, much appreciated.  I am seriously in debate mode on this but I really think I am going to do it, and maybe I just won't bother with leagues this year to practice.
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Re: Two handed release
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2007, 01:03:39 PM »
CC, u might want to take a look at the world tenpin master 2007 where Osku Palermaa and Jason Belmonte both participated.

right its now on youtube but low quality, if u want high quality check out this link:

http://www.totalbowling.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=21707

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Siniak

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Re: Two handed release
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2007, 02:33:16 PM »
There's a nice bit about timing in this article:
http://www.bowlingdigital.com/bowling/node/16691/
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TWOHAND834

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Re: Two handed release
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2007, 02:59:23 PM »
That is an awesome article siniak.  By looking at the illustrations and reading the article, it should illiminate the argument that the second hand is what creates the rev rate.  I like how it states that the opposite hand is nothing more than a support for the weight of the ball.  Great article!!!
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Siniak

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Re: Two handed release
« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2007, 03:41:35 PM »
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That is an awesome article siniak.  By looking at the illustrations and reading the article, it should illiminate the argument that the second hand is what creates the rev rate.  I like how it states that the opposite hand is nothing more than a support for the weight of the ball.  Great article!!!

Yeah I've seen quite a few people suggest the second hand as being used for extra revs, but having tried a twohanded release over the summer, using the second hand as a rev increase really  wasn't my first thought.
It's really nice that there's multiple sources of information about the twohanded delivery now, it at least gives people a chance to learn it the right way even without coaches readily available.
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