Well as I was asked to update, I tried it out for 3 games last night. The first game was borderline horrible, I was in the 150's. Second game I switched to a different ball, got a better reaction, had the first 4, spare, open couple strikes.. 186. 3rd game about the same as the 2nd mid 180s.. Spare shooting will need to improve, I am not the best with figuring the angles as of yet, o well. I did manage a 10pin and narrowly missed another throwing my redzone as flat as possible. Late in the night there as a pretty good no thumb bowler who came in next to us and was amazed at the length I was getting and how flat I COULD throw it. I didn't think it was special but whatever. I think with a plastic ball for spares it could work. The good stuff: AWESOME pin action, more speed, more revs and the important part NO PAIN! I tried throwing spares one handed and was ready to die so that was enough of that. I will either bowl two handed this season or not at all. Suprisingly enough to me, I think its easier to hit marks with this release and I get better projection down the lane with it, I feel its a better option for me, but YMMV.