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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: Juggernaut on January 27, 2020, 09:14:49 PM
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Personally, I think it’s ridiculous.
Comments?
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No they should not be banned.
Urethane is another "tool of the trade" in a lot of people's bag. The folks who want to ban urethane are most likely the ones who can't use it with any level of success or can't counter it's effects using with reactive resin. Either way, urethane is not going anywhere any time soon.
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Chad got that contract extension so I guess now he feels invincible. What a dipshit move. Yeah because urethane is ruining bowling fap motion. Glad they are doing something about it 40 years later. Guess getting rid of cleaner and balance holes isn't retiring the Boomers from league fast enough so time for the big guns. Found out my new league tonight is sanctioned after all because combined it with a stupid Vegas league. Paying that asshat's salary now sigh.
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No they shouldn't be banned.
The only problem with bowling is the bowlers
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Chad got that contract extension so I guess now he feels invincible. What a dipshit move. Yeah because urethane is ruining bowling fap motion. Glad they are doing something about it 40 years later. Guess getting rid of cleaner and balance holes isn't retiring the Boomers from league fast enough so time for the big guns. Found out my new league tonight is sanctioned after all because combined it with a stupid Vegas league. Paying that asshat's salary now sigh.
Damn, preach on brother!
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Absolutely not. Same guys bitching now about urethane wanted Resin banned. What exactly should we use then? Plastic?
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Maybe I missed something, but who/what is talking about banning urethane? USBC?
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No one is talking about banning urethane.
After he won last tournament, Sean Rash was asked why he was the only one not using urethane on the short oil pattern. He made a joke, clearly not being serious, that he doesn't do good with urethane and thinks they should be banned.
I guess b/c it sounds controversial, people have been taking the quote of of context and turning into something it's not.
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Sean Rash was making a joke. If you banned urethane, then 75% of the balls on the house racks would be illegal. Here's a secret .... resin balls are urethane too. 8)
I still cannot understand why the recreational bowler thinks they need a urethane ball for their wall shot league. Unless you are bowling on short patterns or a beat to death surface, why would you even consider it? Most of the PBA guys that use it, have 4 or 5 of them and when the surface of the ball becomes too oily and the surface grit smooths out, they grab another one. Most of these urethane balls are at 1000 grit and under, and they don't stay that way very long. Those facts are always overlooked.
A short-pin resin ball would always make a better choice in my humble opinion unless you are on staff and want to carry 5 urethane balls to league :o
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The way he was wording everything made it really easy to take it out of context. For a couple minutes he stepped on to his soapbox and made sure in his own way let everyone know that Brunswick didnt "believe in him" to keep him on staff. He also made sure to tell everyone that he could care less about the fines for his colorful language he used during the telecast.
Personally, I like watching Rash. He is a heck of a talent. I am not a hater by any means. But he is very rough around the edges per se. He definitely could have taken a better approach to his comments after the show. But the fact is that he doesnt care. When he was supposedly joking; he never laughed, smiled, or acted in a way to indicate he was joking. So I am sure the masses believe he was being pretty serious when he said that urethane should be banned as he admittedly stated he cant score well with it and therefore refuses to use it.
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His new sponsor does not currently offer a 100% urethane ball. An informed and prepared interviewer would be aware of that and not ask a pro why he's not using equipment he does not have.
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His new sponsor does not currently offer a 100% urethane ball. An informed and prepared interviewer would be aware of that and not ask a pro why he's not using equipment he does not have.
New sponsor doesn't have a urethane ball, What is the BooYah or the HB Urethane? Those aren't true urethane covers S20?
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Yeah guess should have held fire but not first time have heard this on here and that is exactly how the balance hole ban and even the aborted diff reduction at last minute crap avalanche started from USBC, with rumors on here. USBC under Chad has made it clear they don't mind screwing over rec bowlers in order to keep the game pure for the pros. I can't even use urethane on house shot but once that fool starts banning balls he won't stop. As for Rash who cares what he says. Its ok to watch him bowl but once he opens his mouth the walking penis in the yellow shirt comes out (million dollar talent but ten cent brain exhibit A).
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His new sponsor does not currently offer a 100% urethane ball. An informed and prepared interviewer would be aware of that and not ask a pro why he's not using equipment he does not have.
Yeah, that's not true. HB Urethane is still in the line up.
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Hb urethane is going bye bye very very soon.
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Should make FloBowling retract their headline if Rash wasn't serious.
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Wait why is it news that Rash said something very stupid? When has anything he ever had to say mattered except to show off what a dingus he is? Usually don't say just shut up and bowl but with that guy it is warranted. Might give Chad bad ideas to "save" bowling.
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Only ball in current line up 30% urethane 70% reactive. Would hardly qualify as urethane. Don't see BOO YAH on list of balls currently manufactured.
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Only ball in current line up 30% urethane 70% reactive. Would hardly qualify as urethane. Don't see BOO YAH on list of balls currently manufactured.
Ummm...isn't the HB Urethane in the current lineup also?
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Urethane is a small market. Most bowlers don't realize that. Urethane is not for everyone… and in most cases over utilized
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Urethane is a small market. Most bowlers don't realize that. Urethane is not for everyone… and in most cases over utilized
Truer words never spoken.
Yet Urethane topics here seem to dominate, as if Urethane balls are the new second coming of ball technology. I often wonder why there is such a disconnect from reality. :o
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heres some videos that go with this question
Should urethane be banned from the PBA? | why do so many use it?
(Part 2) Should urethane be banned? | Why cant you just adjust and be just fine?
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Totally agree urethane is a fad and pretty much worthless on house shot for me and dare say many others basically ever. Hard even to dial in carry with Covert Tank so far. Just don't like the word ban at all with the current clown car governing body the sport has.
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If urethane is making carry down... What's the best solution?
1- Wouldn't a short pin solid symmetric still make the turn?
2- go around the carry down with a pearl like rash?
3- just use urethane too?
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1. no
2. only an option if the pattern is short enough and there is a little bump to the outside
3. if your abilities allow
The one thing TV doesn't accurately portray at a PBA event is how quick a player's ball gets down the lane and how many times it revolves as it does. It's the first thing you will notice in person. At 19 or 20 mph and rev rates of 450+ the ball is hummin'. The lanes change faster and more than most bowlers will ever see.
This whole thing sounds like us guys that used to hook urethane bitching about the straight guys using reactive and how the 3 flat tens a game they used to leave were now gone.
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If urethane is making carry down... What's the best solution?
1- Wouldn't a short pin solid symmetric still make the turn?
2- go around the carry down with a pearl like rash?
3- just use urethane too?
Here is my thought process when something like this happens. If the carry down is around 6-8 boards; I take a ball that will give me decent amount of push through the front and just enough backend motion to kick out the corners and move in to 15-17 at the arrows and play as though the 10 board is the gutter. I keep my shoulders square and typically target around 12 board break point. That gives me a couple boards of room to the right before risking hitting the carry down. I think if you try to stay to the outside then you have to be too perfect or you will shoot 150 pretty quickly. I tend to get away from the trouble and find a ball that will match up playing just inside of where the trouble is.
The simple reality is that if you are going to go around it; you have to be so accurate as to be able to set a quarter 40 feet downlane and be able to roll over it 90% of the time in order to score well and most of us wouldnt be able to do that. One board inside of target could mean you bring 2-8-10 into play from the carry down and a board to the outside of target could result in the same if you do not have the right ball match up. You could do a 1-2 inch pin to PAP layout and move to the extreme outside. But once again. If you miss a pinch inside, you may be looking at a run away brooklyn from that early hook spot or even hitting the 2 pin in the face. Most house shots may not even have enough volume of oil outside of 5 board to even get the ball to push more than 30 feet before wanting to hook. Just my opinion of course but basing this on my own experiences. Most conditions will have enough volume in the first 30-35 feet that you could do a lateral move with something weaker or make a move inside of 3rd arrow and play to 12 board as a break point. Even if you dont carry all that well. I would rather shoot 210-220 then shoot 150 trying to fight the outside. Might make the difference between cashing in a tournament, winning a bracket, or leaving with empty pockets.
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This whole thing sounds like us guys that used to hook urethane bitching about the straight guys using reactive and how the 3 flat tens a game they used to leave were now gone.
Please forgive my language, but...
FUCKING THIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS
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I tend to get away from the trouble and find a ball that will match up playing just inside of where the trouble is.
Whats usually your coverstock, surface, core, overall strength to accomplish this?
I'm also a 2 hander
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I tend to get away from the trouble and find a ball that will match up playing just inside of where the trouble is.
Whats usually your coverstock, surface, core, overall strength to accomplish this?
I'm also a 2 hander
My favorite ball for playing inside is the Violent Eruption. I have had this ball since its release about 7-8 years ago and never tried to replace it as it has been that good for me. Really anything symmetric with a cover that is clean through the fronts and a core that revs up well in the midlane without being too flippy on the backend but more of a hard arcing motion. I think the core numbers were around 2.48 RG and .036 diff for the Violent. The layout is 45 x 5 x 30 with a small weight hole around P3 which I know will have to be plugged up before August. The surface I have currently is 2000 abralon with Storm 2, Rough Buff, or Clean and Sheen, Crown Factory Compound as all those polishes were pretty similar.
If the Violent is a little too much, then I go to my trusty Deep Freeze and square up my angle through the front part of the lane since the core is weaker than the Violent. Layouts on both are close to identical.
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I have lower back issues so urethane is my friend. I’m one of the fortunate ones who can trick urethane and get it to strike more than most. Also if I’m bowling a singles tournament and can strike with urethane while making them harder for others, who in there right mind wouldn’t take that advantage
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I was wrong . Global does offer urethane. Thanks for the correction.