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NY Mike

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Urethane vs resin on short oil
« on: June 20, 2008, 02:40:44 AM »
Any opinions on use of Urethane vs tamed resin balls on a short oil pattern.
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Re: Urethane vs resin on short oil
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2008, 10:44:22 AM »
Weak resin (preferably polished solid) to allow the ball to spend some energy has always been my preference on shorter oil.
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Re: Urethane vs resin on short oil
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2008, 10:46:12 AM »
I don't apply an enormous amount of hand to the ball (due to how I throw), but I can tell you this:

I prefer to throw an older Pearl Reactive (Columbia300 Piranha/C Pearl) on dry than either Urethane I have currently drilled (Visionary Sorcerer and Slate Blue Gargoyle). Now, take into consideration that the Slate Blue is my current spare ball for the last season and a half, so no strong drilling of any kind was put on it.

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Re: Urethane vs resin on short oil
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2008, 10:51:12 AM »
Oh boy, currently it is Resin Hole Pounder Pearl on Shorter oil with pin under Bridge drilling. But I would rather use Urethane I just don't have a urethane ball to use... I throw my Nitro off a bridge in November.
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Re: Urethane vs resin on short oil
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2008, 10:55:18 AM »
Urethane is the way to go if you want to avoid over-reactions, esp. on short oil and a clean back end area. I experimented a lot with weak reactive balls, and I found that urethane yields a more even and predictable read of the (drier) lane than any reactive I have tried so far.
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Re: Urethane vs resin on short oil
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2008, 11:39:29 AM »
use urethane on everything!!!!!
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Re: Urethane vs resin on short oil
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2008, 11:48:46 AM »
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use urethane on everything!!!!!


I can understand this well - in fact, you do not need much "more" than an old, matte Faball Blue Hammer to play on anything I can think of. If you can live with a smooth hook and are able to hold tight lines, you can use such a piece even on oily shots - it is just a matter of adjustment. The charm is that it works just as well on scorched lanes, predictably, where reactives - even mild ones, can become jerky.

A shame that such old scholl pieces with true cores are not in production anymore. The Liberator might be a urethane, but it is (liek the Pure Hammer) a more modern coverstock, AFAIK, and much stronger and responsive to the lane than the 90ies Faball pieces.
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Re: Urethane vs resin on short oil
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2008, 12:35:44 PM »
I loved my Roto Gold Grenade...other urethane favorites included the original Blue Nail and the U2.  

I still have all three...after all, one never knows when I might decide to bowl again in an environment where they are necessary.  Of course, one also never knows when I might decide to bowl again...
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Re: Urethane vs resin on short oil
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2008, 12:43:53 PM »
In response to Dizzy's comments any ball can work on any condition with the proper adjustments
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Re: Urethane vs resin on short oil
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2008, 12:45:30 PM »
i have a liberator, and in my current summer league it gets a lotta use.
its a Urethan cover, but OOB at 1000 grit it still hooked a ton. so i polished it up an bam, awesome short/dry piece. although not as forgiving as some resins, to tight it WILL cross over, not enough hand/too wide , it takes out the 4and 7 (ima lefty)

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Re: Urethane vs resin on short oil
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2008, 12:50:55 PM »
Theres a Burgundy Hammer on the rack at my center if I can find again I would consider drilling up lol.
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Re: Urethane vs resin on short oil
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2008, 06:27:18 PM »
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In response to Dizzy's comments any ball can work on any condition with the proper adjustments.
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You forgot to add, "when thrown by the person with the right degree of versatility". That is, who is able to make those adjustments.

There is always a proviso. There are very few "always" in bowling.

Unless you're capable of throwing a ball at relatively high ball speed or have a highg enough ball speed to rev rate ratio, some of us still need the length provided by resin pearls to get through some very fairly  dry heads and allow the ball to retian energy.

Even pearl urethanes may not get the necessary length to retian enough energy, if you are not a high speed or a low rev bowler. You may even need a polyester ball. It all depends on how you throw the ball, how much of a release and delivery adjustment you are capable of making and how much friction is in the heads.

I'm afraid some of us cannot average 240 on every condition we see we need some of bowling's crutches, no matter how hard we try to be as versatile as the best out there. That's just life.
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Re: Urethane vs resin on short oil
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2008, 06:34:40 PM »
I have a trusty Columbia Gold Dot for spares that is pearl urethane and on dirt it will still hook early on me.

Find a cheap urethane to plug and experiment with and decide from there....
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Re: Urethane vs resin on short oil
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2008, 07:44:16 PM »
my urethane Slate Blue Gargoyle is absolute money.
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