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USBC and SMART
« on: April 19, 2006, 11:30:18 AM »
The USBC has now offically forced all Junior bowling Tours and Tournaments into banking the scholarship dollars within SMART funds.  I believe this has been unfairly done because if a Tournament or Tour does not bank these dollars with SMART, that tour will not be sanctioned by USBC.  Two very successful Junior Circuits come to my mind.. The great Junior Bowlers Tour created by Chuck Pezzano Jr. and the baby booming Junior Bowlers Tour Southwest created by East Coast original Jeff Hemer.  For many years Chuck Pezzano Jr. has successfully managed the scholarship dollars and has offered tremendous Junior events to young bowlers of all ages and averages.  Jeff Hemer has recently had great success in Arizona, Nevada, and New Mexico with the guidance of Chuck Pezzano Jr.  Together, these two related junior bowling tours have awarded over 2.2 MILLION DOLLARS in Scholarship money to perspective/current college students.  And the number is growing rapidly.  

The fact of this matter is, the USBC is trying to seize the JBT's right to manage its own scholarship fund.  Not only do I believe this is completely rediculous, SMART has proven to many people that they have been negligent in many apsects of their program.  A recent press release on Bowl.com has indicated as of Augest 1st, 2006, all scholarship moneys must be filed with SMART and the USBC.  This is to avoid risk of POTENTIAL NCAA complications and High School eligability.  My opinion, if Mens collegiate bowling was to be sanctioned by the NCAA, I do not believe I would compete due to the rules they imply based on scholarships.  Bowling is not basketball, think logically USBC.  

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Re: USBC and SMART
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2006, 08:16:20 PM »
true OGrady, i do admit, if it is the future, you have to look out for it. now is forever. . .
unfairness isnt cool either.
I have won a couple of scholarships too, and i intend to try and win another few this summer.
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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2006, 08:35:33 PM »
USBC mine as well be considered a Communist governing body... everything is their way or the highway.... honestly its ridiculous some of the changes they are trying to impose and propose for that matter...  i believe any fund should be able to manage their own fund as long as its accessible and done well which JBT does a great job.... honestly they want it to all go into one fund so they can manage it all... its an idea to have all the money in one place sure... but they will have access to too much money and it wouldnt be surprising when they use it and intend to pay it back when they can and basically use it as their own bank... and then when people go to request money out they wont be able to get it right away... some of the things they are trying to do to junior bowling are ignorant and not fair to the future of bowling....

honestly they lie through their teeth by saying they want to keep bowlings integrity... because all they do is take things away that are going well for bowling....

things were better when they were seperate but equal... now USBC is everything in one and honestly like i said is becoming WAY TOO POLITICAL and WAY TOO MUCH LIKE a totalitarian or communist run government....
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Re: USBC and SMART
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2006, 08:35:58 PM »
even though im not a junior member im going to take this matter up with the proper officials i am going to call and email the usbc and i dont know if it will help or not im going to try to get through to them on that they cant controll everything, this is stupid, i had lots of money in scholarships when i bowled juniors and yaba never interfeared with it at all.  the usbc has went to far and like i said i dotn know if i will be able to accomplish anything but i will try
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« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2006, 08:39:35 PM »
i think that the USBC is greedy, they dont give bowlers rings for honor scores much anymore, its complete BS and i think that the USBC is ruining bowling especially junior bowling
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Re: USBC and SMART
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2006, 08:41:23 PM »
I agree...SMART is too big, I know people who they have m essed up the numbers on, screwing people out of money, b/c there is simply too much work for them to handle efficiently.  

Point 2.  I know of organizations who keep their own scholarship money, put it in a bank, earn interest, and then give that away as scholarships too...my guess is now usbc will be pocketing the interest they earn on OUR scholarship money.  

hmm...3 things in less than a month that usbc has done to youths that a bunch of people are upset about...it does in fact look as though the kids are being slapped in the face.

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« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2006, 08:44:26 PM »
See this article copy from a recent trade magazine (BCM, I think).  Pay special attention to the NCAA ruling on why scholarship's can't come from anyone but the National Governing Body.  The question I would like answered is the interest earned on the account a percentage of your share to the total account at SMART or a flat number spread across all accounts regardless of the contribution?

IMHO, I think we've been lucky to not create eligibility issues to date in the methods we use now by submitting directly to the school.  Of course, are we grandfathered or have we done irreparable damage already?

Although I would also prefer to allow our association to be self-fulfilling, I understand their reasoning and it doesn't look like there is a means to avoid this starting in August.  


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Charges that USBC is trying to help itself to interest earned on youth scholarship funds flared shortly after the BPAA High School Bowling Committee met at the Bowling Summit.

 

The excitement was ignited by five proposed revisions to USBC by-laws that would make deposit of youth scholarship money in USBC’s SMART program a condition for USBC certification of youth tournaments and leagues.  The amendments were previewed at the meeting preparatory to presenting them to USBC’s Youth Committee for a vote.  One well-placed source on the proprietors’ side called the USBC moves “a grab for the money”.

 

Not surprisingly, Jeanne Klescewski, director of the high school and college program for USBC, had a different take.  We didn’t run her through the various rumors and charges we heard, but she was not surprised that some negative thoughts were in the air.  The SMART program needs to be better understood by proprietors, she believes.  â€œThe whole intent is to protect the eligibility of the athletes” Klescewski told us.

 

A memo from USBC CEO Roger Dalkin to the USBC High School Advisory Committee dated a few days before the Summit grouped the proposals around two issues.

 

First, the awarding of rings, watches and comparable items in USBC’s recognition program for high schoolers “violates the athletic code in many state athletic associations.”  They are regarded as items of “intrinsic” value, hence a payment to the athlete.  The proposal: The recognition program would award purely symbolic emblems, pins and the like, similar to those awarded to high schoolers in other sports.  If the bowler or parent wants to commemorate the event with something having intrinsic value, he/she would be required to purchase that award.

 

The second issue is the mandatory nature of scholarship administration for students who want to compete at the college level.  â€œThe NCAA does not recognize nor will they accept alternative administration of scholarships by other than the NGB (National Governing Body) to assure eligibility,” Dalkin wrote.  In bowling the NGB is USBC and USBC’s instrument for administering scholarships is SMART.

 

This was the burning pit for the rumors.  Scholarship money that is awarded to a particular student would have to be deposited in the SMART account within 30 days after the completion of the league or tournament in which the student earned it.  If not, no USBC certification for that tournament or league, and the student may be disqualified by school authorities from varsity sports for the rest of his/her school career.  SMART would disburse the money.

 

But, Klescewski informed us, the scholarship fund, not SMART, would retain the rest of the money that has been accumulated and would continue to earn interest on it.

 

Yes, Klescewski granted, interest earned while the money in at SMART would be used to offset the cost of SMART operation, but, she continued, “They have a staff of two employees that manage the entire fund.  It’s audited annually by an outside firm and if there is a surplus of interest, that surplus is distributed to the entities that have deposited scholarship money.”

 

They do seem to be in the best interests of all concerned; students (keep their eligibility), proprietors (keep kids bowling), scholarship programs (keep their viability) and yes, USBC, which is here acting like the sport’s governing body it is supposed to be.

 

The USBC Youth Committee approved the five proposals via teleconference the week following the Summit.  At press time, they were headed for the USBC Board for final approvals.


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« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2006, 09:00:20 PM »
This is a gif animation, so it has multiple slides to watch...

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« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2006, 09:40:12 PM »
I honestly dont see the big deal about it. I mean as long as it doesnt change any of the tournaments or their payouts, whats it really matter? A little more easy if you ask me, cause you then have an idea of how much scholarship money you really have, and dont have to look in the 25 other places where you have won money as well.
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« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2006, 02:45:46 AM »
Sherm, that's exactly how the USBC seems to be running these days, like an overbearing, overtaking merger.  This is not business USBC, this is SPORT!  

I have just read the longest email i've ever been sent, it was a forward of an extremely intriguing arguement/debate/conversation between USBC CEO Roger Dalkin and Two other noteworthy names in Junior Bowling.  Granted the email was from one of the noteworthy's, the answers and comments are legit and I am baffled by the startling results that come from it.  

I am debating on whether or not to make this email public to all of you, because it will shed light on MANNNNY issues that I am sure none of you have ever thought about before, including myself until viewing its contents.  

SMART's negligence has been proven on many occasions within the amount of people they are holding scholarships for and the amount of time and paperwork one must submit and "wait" for their scholarship.  As I am a frequent competitor in the Junior Bowlers Tour, I have nothing but delightful comments to post about the handlings of monies by Chuck Pezzano Jr. and Jeff Hemer.  These monies were issued to my school immediately, sometimes within THREE DAYS OF ASKING FOR THEM!!!!! --from Chuck Pezzano Jr.  THREE DAYS!!!!!!  Any Students know that time is money, when you need a book and/or pick up a class, it is absolutly necessary that it be done accordingly and very quickly.  

Another grievance I have about SMART is its policy of returning scholarship immediately back to them from the college or institution of higher learning if not immediately used.  In the past semester, I did not take classes full time.  I had an account at my college (Middlesex County College, Middlesex County, NJ) that was in the plus by over a thousand dollars....majority of it  being from SMART dollars.  (BEcause SMART dollars were the last to arrive to pay for spring classes, Chuck Pezzano Jr's. JBT SCholarship Money arriving First hand.  I had figured I had enough to register for a Summer class given the SMART money was in the account at College.  WRONG!  Immediately the unused portion of SMART scholarships was sent back to Greendale Wisconsin where I am supposing it would collect yet more interest.  This is a mandatory rule for all SMART scholarships, which I now deem as an unfair and unjust decision.  THATS MY MONEY, granted I earned it and should see where I can use it in my college experience.  To use that money, more paperwork, more headaches, and more but F*** Up's by SMART will cause the greatest delay I have ever experience in recieving a scholarship.  

I back Chuck Pezzano Jr., Jeff Hemer, and any other tournament organization that refuses to hand over all the hardwork of buiding a successful scholarship fund to the USBC ONE HUNDRED PERCENT.  Perhaps a National Governing Body that organize's everyones funds is necessary for NCAA or High School bowling, but listen up USBC.... THERE ARE ONLY ELEVEN (11) STATES THAT HAVE BOWLING AS A VARSITY SPORT!!!!!!!!!!!!!  C'MON!!!!!  Roger Dalkin and crew are going try this overtake of all of Junior Bowling just for ELEVEN STATES????????????  Not only is this  illogical, but that my friend is bad for business.  If that's what the USBC is, a business??????!!??!!??  

Steve Richter, I have heard of you as a great bowler and respect you very much, especially your love for the RotoGrip brand.  However, NCAA has completely drained womens bowling and hopefully willlll NEVER get a grip on Mens collegiate bowling SO HELP ME GOD.  As a perspective collegiate bowler, I have four years of eligibility and a slew of scholarship money to use in my college endeavors.  For instance, with all these new USBC Laws, if Mens collegiate bowling were to become NCAA sanctioned in 2007-2008, I would withdraw in a heartbeat and I am certain nearly half of the countries teams would suffer great lose due to it.  Junior Male bowlers possess the majority of the countries scholarship dollars and use these dollars to fund their schooling day in and day out.  Pull that plug, and with budget cuts for State schools in New Jersey from Governor Corzine, NO SCHOLARSHIPS TO BOWLERS I AM FOR CERTAIN.  I will not be bowling on the collegiate team because I will be struggling to just meet degree requirements.  

There are no excuses in any of these matters.  Especially by the USBC, I think they need to share with all of us their philosphies and reasoning in detail behind it all.  

Richter, Being only about an hours drive on I-43 from the USBC office, I am sure you are dear friends with Roger and company.  Put yourself in the shoes of Chuck Pezzano Jr., if you have ran a Junior Tournament series for 30 years and are the most successful individual in Tournament Management in the entire history of bowling,  (This gentleman has run over 2500 Junior EVents!!!)  how would you feel when a One year old organization says that you have to give it all up because in the future, it will benefit the juniors.  But they are not sure when it will benefit the juniors, but it will be soon, HOPEFULLY!!!!  In a nutshell, this is the paraphrasing of my understandings.  

I am only a 19 year old kid who still bowls JBT's, USBC certified Sport Leagues, competes in the Junior Olympic Gold year after year, and is currently on JUnior Team USA 2006.  AS a college student, I am bright enough to decipher between being helped out or given the high hard one.  Until a public announcement is made by Roger Dalkin and staff on the constant changes of YOUTH BOWLING, I feel that Myself and 94,999 Scholarship recipients have been, or are about to be given the SHAFT!!!!

I pray for a better solution to this.  I hope that a higher voice can post and shed light on these issues.

Oh Carmichael, Perfect Youth attitude..less to care about the better!  Perhaps that is why SMART is merging like it is, because of careless reciepients like yourself.  Go on with your farewell tour, because once its up, say "farewell" to Jeff Hemers headache free JBT.  BEcause I am sure SMART will show you "NO MERCY" when you are looking to collect!!!!!
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« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2006, 07:29:07 AM »
Matt:

Your points are well taken and I certainly would be as frustrated as you clearly are with the slow response at SMART.  We guarantee a 10 day turnaround on our funds and have had kids come to us for assistance in trying to get them to act quicker.

I think what is still misunderstood by many posting here is that we're not talking about losing eligibility in NCAA recognized bowling sports.  It's about losing eligibility in all collegiate sports (wrestling, gymnastics, basketball, baseball, football, hockey, etc, etc, etc).  What has to be understood is this is for the protection of the athletes, not in how the tournaments are run, but for the administrators to guard against their contribution to an athlete becoming ineligible because of the way we (Chuck Jr, Jeff, myself) handle the money now.  That's why in my original post I'm wondering what have we already done that can't be un-done to the kids and is there a grandfathering clause that ends 7/31/06?  My thought is there must be something in place or why else would we just be hearing about it now since we've been paying schools directly for years.

Believe me, if this wasn't legit, then the youth committee wouldn't have approved it or at the very least researched it further before making the recommendation to take it to the Board for a vote.

Platinum Bowler - I couldn't agree with you more.  When I discussed this with a parent, we found out that in our state their kids had money in five different locations.  Lucky for him they keep good records of where the money is, but most parents don't and they come knocking on our door asking us to help them find it.  Again, I still would want an organization that goes through the extra 7 steps to become certified without submitting to SMART to be self-sustaining, but one stop shopping for kids, parents and centers (or proprietors) is a logical way to go.

P.S. - Matt, I didn't know anyone knew where Sheboygan was, but your right we're about an hour north of USBC.  I have never met or talked to Roger personally and have only seen him in person once.
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« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2006, 11:43:39 AM »

The USBC-youth makes a ton of money off of interest from the scholarship money collected, and now not having to give out awards, is going to make them even more money. Until the USBC and SMART lets the IRS (no organization short of that) do a full audit of all their paperwork and IRS Agent says they are making no profit off of the SMART money, I will never think differently. This is the problem with the USBC... there is no governing body, there are no checks and balances. All the board members and leaders are all in this together, and have no reason to not back up one another. This is why this Nazi-tactic of controlling all money will be put into place so easily. I wish I WISH bowlers had another choice of a sanctioning body, how different things would be then. If I hit the lotto, hell, I'd spend all my money on creating a new sanctioning body just to give the USBC some competition. Without any checks and balances, or competition, the USBC can run-amuck and do what it damn well pleases, only hurting junior bowlers.
Now you are leaving a fine organization like Chuck's out in the cold, he either complies or dies. Not that I doubt his bowlers would continue bowling even if the events were not sanctioned, I would prefer that because I do detest the USBC, but I think the USBC would swoop down and start punishing the bowlers that participate in these unsanctioned events, which is just horrible (unless it happened to me, because then I would take them to court). As a matter of fact I think a law suit should be forthcoming, not a class action because only the lawyers win in that case, but every tournament director that feels his rights are being violated should be bringing the USBC to court on an individual basis, let them use some of that easily earned interest money.
Back to the IRS audit, one needs to be done to show the corruptness of the worst tournament in the world, the Junior national gold event... I WANT TO SEE WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING THERE! 10's of thousands of dollars go unaccounted for, yet the USBC has to falsely complain about organizations like the JBT??????? THIS IS ABSURD!
Now, NCAA. I can't SAY too much about he NCAA because men's bowling is not sanctioned by NCAA (THANK GOD!). What has the NCAA done for women's bowling other than confuse the hell out of everyone between the two types of national championships that exist. The NCAA, in my opinion, hurts bowling with its stingent rules. Schools do not give out ENOUGH scholarship money for bowling to make it possible for NCAA members to not have to pay for school, so where is the harm in earning extra scholarship money!? The prime example of this is at the evil Junior Gold event in which many times females have to turn down the scholarship money... does that money get passed down to the next non-NCAA female???!~?!?!?!??! NOOOOOOOOOO it just goes away, vanishes, to SMART???? I have no idea, no one says anything, CALL THE IRS!!!
The NCAA seems to exist just to bother athletes... it is one thing if you are on a full ride, then you don't need anymore scholarship money, but not every female bowler gets treated like a Duke start basketball player who has everything paid off already, sometimes... as hard as it may be to believe for this rich and wealth USBC leaders, these girls still need to earn money to pay off school.

I AM SO PISSED AT ALL OF THIS NON SENSE THAT I CAN not even speak in a clear and coherent manner.
What am I doing to help???
-Currently looking into any reasons as to why the USBC can be sued for forcing these rules upon people
-Currently preparing a letter to the IRS with the best documented facts that I have collected in regards to statements made by the USBC, SMART, and Junior National Fraud.
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« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2006, 11:54:00 AM »
The problem with this investigation by the "bowling committee" is that they are all devils under the same paying boss. There needs to be OUTSIDE investigation done, specifically by the IRS. This done for many athletic governing bodies, but most bowlers see no problem with the USBC.
The NCAA problem is that the NCAA does not care about bowling. Now people will jump the gun right away and say that if the NCAA is kicked out of college bowling, women will lose their scholarships... this is not true because whether or not a sport is sanctioned by the NCAA, all scholarship money given out for athletic purposes by a school is reviewed by the NCAA, which means, that schools would still need to meet their quota of equal scholarships to males and females and there would still be a purpose to give money to female bowlers.
The NCAA is not needed in bowling, until more people realize this, problems like this will continue. Until people get fed up with these problems and call for a better checks and balances system on our governing body, these problems WILL NOT GO AWAY.
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« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2006, 11:55:35 AM »
One more thing,
the USBC-Youth is the same organization that does not want to have any juniors wearing or using anything with an alcoholic beverage logo, yet they themselves for a prolonged period of time had an Ad for a sponsorship from Miller Light on their USBC YOUTH PAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anyone to complain to about that? No...
The USBC is a waste
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« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2006, 05:23:57 PM »
If the scholarship money is held in business accounts and there are records kept on file, like on the JBT computer... those files along with the scholarship letters sent out at the start of each year, you should have no problem claiming your scholarship money.

One thing that worries me about the SMART fund IS that SO MANY people have access to my money... it is a giant mess and if someone at SMART Misplaces your scholarship money there is not governing body to go complain to.

At least with Chuck and Jeff you know them, you see them, and you are familiar with them. SMART = STUPID
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