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USBC Bowler magazine, an irritating article
« on: August 12, 2006, 02:55:03 PM »
Has everybody gotten their magazine for the fall?  When I saw the clip at the bottom that said "Could he be the Tiger Woods of bowling?" I thought, oh hell, here we go again.  Why does every sport just HAVE to have a Tiger Woods?  When's hockey gonna get THEIR TW?  How about Rugby?  Let's just throw pool in there too . .  Who cares?!  I don't!  I bowl with black people every now and then, and we've got a couple in town that are pretty good.  Who cares if they're black?  Does this mean I have to label the best one "The TW of Topeka bowling?"  If you bowl, it's all the same to me.  If I'm bowling against somebody and shoot 245, a 250 is gonna beat me, no matter what color the bowler that threw it is.  Everybody's equal in this country, and we've gone to great lengths and sometimes overboard to make sure that everybody has a chance to succeed.  So why are we still going to all the trouble to keep everything separated?  We keep track of all kinds of stats in sports, and of course there's stats by race.  Why?  Aren't we past all that yet?  Thankfully, telling a kid that doesn't know who Hank Aaron is that the guy has the most homeruns in baseball history isn't going to get the question "What color was he?"  We keep calling for everybody to be equal, but we just keep separating everything further.  Yes, we all have differences, but two white people can be just as different as a white person and a black person, and it's definitely important to remember where you came from, but do we have to keep making such a big deal out of it?  We're not doing all this to celebrate the races, we're doing it to patronize them.  It doesn't matter anymore.  We don't have to change rules to allow minorities to play . . the best player gets to play, period.  There are more black people interested in basketball and football, that's just how it goes.  So what's the deal?  Be proud of your heritage, but now, numbers in sports should be just that.  Everybody trains the same, everybody has the same resources, etc.  Numbers should no longer be categorized by race.  They're a person, they did this, and that's the end of it.  Anything more than that continues to promote separation of the races.
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Re: USBC Bowler magazine, an irritating article
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2006, 11:08:50 PM »
Maybe they were talking about his totally dominating game and the fact that he is THAT DAMN GOOD. No MATTER if he was purple with pink polkadots he would still be TIGER WOODS
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« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2006, 11:27:03 PM »
Tiger Woods was a revivalist. The sport of golf wasn't exactly all that popular until he came along, when you consider the fact that it had a niche following and wasn't attractive to the non-golfing masses. I didn't care for golf, but I would watch Tiger play all the time.

Not to say the sport of golf had a small following, it was just not a mainstream sport like it has been since he came into the scene.

Sad to say, if a white person at his age did the same thing, I don't think it would have had the same effect. I can't seem to wrap my mind around that. With that said, your post has merit. Otherwise, the analogy is basically assuming the person referenced in the article will revive the sport of bowling with extraordinary performances. Bowling doesn't lend itself to that.

In my opinion, even if the same thing happened to bowling, it wouldn't have the same affect worldwide. I doubt bowling would ever be as popular as golf.
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« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2006, 11:27:12 PM »
Who exactly were they calling the Tiger Woods of bowling?
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« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2006, 11:28:28 PM »
No, the whole article is race dominated.  Yeah, Tiger Woods is the best golfer ever.  I don't care if he's black, I LOVE to watch him play.  The funny part is that he isn't even full black, he's just half black!  This article is just centered around black bowlers, and who is gonna be the one that emerges to become bowling's TW or MJ.  Maybe bowling's best bowler will be Mexican, or maybe even Chinese . . that'd really screw everybody up.  I'm only 25.  Everything about racism and segregation and all that was way before my time, I just read about it and hear about it.  If everybody didn't go to such great lengths to keep beating all those facts to death, most people wouldn't care!  I used to be nervous about being around minorities because everything in school and in the media made me feel like I had to treat them with white gloves . .
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« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2006, 11:30:20 PM »
Buzz, I'd like to think that the comparison of Tiger Woods is used to symbolize being a dominating force that has crushed the competition, but let me ask you this question. When was the last time you heard a White athlete called "The next Tiger Woods"? There are underlying reasons for this, first and foremost, Tiger's domination of a mainly white sport. That is where this comparison comes from. Anytime a black man dominates a primarily white sport you will hear this comparison. What's trully ironic is it's the same morons who strive to be politically correct who make this comparison. I would love to hear a reporter compare Venus Williams' domination to Chris Everts', but you won't hear that. You'll hear how she is the Tiger Woods of Tennis, a very hard, politically (in)correct way of life in America.
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« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2006, 11:34:17 PM »
It's just basically an article about African-Americans and bowling, and the lack of them on the PBA tour.  I'll tell you what, if I had a chance between pro basketball and pro bowling, I wouldn't even have to think about it.  They just want to find some good black bowlers to put on tour and pressure to perform well so they can get ratings up, then label somebody bowling's "TW."  Are we gonna start pressuring each team in the NBA to have at least one white player on the floor at all times too?  Come on now, seriously.  This article is about nothing but race, it has nothing to do with anybody's skill level.  The guys they talked about are good, do an article on that instead of making sure everybody knows they're black . .
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« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2006, 11:36:21 PM »
And keep in mind this isn't a racist post, rather, it's exactly the opposite.  Equality is here, and for some reason, people can't be satisfied with that.
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« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2006, 01:15:08 AM »
Lol, I'm sorry, I didn't understand a word of that and have no clue who you're talking about . .

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Turned from a ruin to the last thing respectable in the sport to, hey look we can use him as a poster boy. Ashame the bowling world hates him. USBC is on its way down faster than I even thought.
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« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2006, 01:21:07 AM »
Youre pretty fired up about this. A few side notes, we are not all equal and we dont all have the same resources as you alluded to in your introductory post. A sad, but harsh reality in America.
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« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2006, 02:25:50 AM »
Yeah, you've got a point, but that's not directly related to just race.  There are underpriveledged people of all races in this country that will never have the ability to do anything or go anywhere, and I'm not saying it would be equally easy for everyone, but if people would take advantage of what they have and work, they can do anything.  There's a way for everyone, you can't just sit back and make excuses.  I understand that people have to do what they have to do to survive, but if kids would just excel in school, they could get scholarships to pay for their college, and just about ANYBODY can get a student loan.  America's the only country on the planet where you can go from having nothing to having everything.  That goes for EVERYBODY, not just select races.  

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« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2006, 11:44:50 AM »
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America's the only country on the planet where you can go from having nothing to having everything.  That goes for EVERYBODY, not just select races.  



If it were that easy, everyone would be rich and powerful.  There would be no poverty, ghettos, crime.  That's fantasy phrase of America only applies to a uncalculable tiny percentage who may have won the lottery, got a career in entertainment, or used a little bit of money to launch a corporation that through years and years of building, became a conglomerate.  This is straying away from the initial post so I'll leave it at that.
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« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2006, 12:36:28 PM »
Let me first state that I am an African American bowler and I love the game. Truth is HamPster, as a race we have come a long way. But don't be nieve enough to think that all of America views us as equal. You have to remember that the Civil rights movements to give us the equality that you are reffering to only happened about 50 years ago. Having stated that, if persons didn't view us(African Americans) as equal then, then a law or movements wouldn't make them do it now. Now I am not saying that all Caucasian Americans are racists, but the ones that were back in the 50's and 60's more than likely still are and have passed that down generations, henceforth racism still exists. African Americans aren't exempt from this. But, this article is celebrating the introduction of African American bowlers into the mainstream of bowling. Now I for one hate the idea of people being reffered to the Tiger Woods of a sport. But this is an event that needs to be celebrated, if this young man turns into a successful professional bowler then he would be a pioneer for African Americans in the bowling world. I don't know if you watch ESPN classic, but  I do, and I have only seen one African American bowler bowl before on TV. That bothers me. Now this statement:

 
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It doesn't matter anymore. We don't have to change rules to allow minorities to play . . the best player gets to play, period. There are more black people interested in basketball and football, that's just how it goes. So what's the deal?


Do you ever wonder why African American's dominated these sports and not golf, hockey, and bowling? MONEY!!!! Look at a lot of the peoples stories that were successful in basketball and football. They were usually poor and these games were a way out. But, they didn't have to pay to practice, they didn't have to pay to get into tournaments, all they needed was a ball and some shoes. In contrast look at all the great bowlers in PBA history. Most of them didn't have a come up stories, most were born into money. Now, am I saying that all succesful African American athletes were poor and all sucessful Caucasian Americans were rich? No, not at all. But what I am saying is that you cannot compare such a money hungry game as bowling to sports like basketball and football. Its not that the interest isn't there, because believe me, it is. A great show that I believe everyone should watch if they get a chance is Black/White, I believe there is an upcoming season. But you will see the vast differences in both cultures and also the struggles of each.

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Re: USBC Bowler magazine, an irritating article
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2006, 01:13:27 PM »
I just thought I would throw my 2 cents in.. I know the guy they are talking about. I have had the privilage to bowl with him and you can say we are friends.. He is one of the best I have ever seen in this sport. To be honest not to many people impress me and Fero does.. Words cant describe how good he really is..  For those of you who have actually had the chance to see him bowl you know what I am talking about.. For those who haven't had the chance to see him bowl you are missing out.. I have bowled some PBA tournaments and from what I have seen if Fero would actually do tour trials or even some of the PTQ's he would do very very well..So I don't understand why everyone is getting so worked up because they said he could be the next Tiger Woods they are just words. But I do agree he could be one of the best things for the sport.
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« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2006, 01:33:25 PM »
I realize racism still exists, I'm not naive enough to believe otherwise.  And I know not everybody goes from nothing to something.  Believe me, I know it's a lot cheaper to pick up a basketball and go for it.  Bowling's an expensive sport.  I definitely have a lot of respect for the black race, and could I have been strong enough to be a Rosa Parks, Martin Luther King, Jackie Robinson, etc.?  Not a chance.  It's a very strong, close knit race with a great sense of pride and family that the white race will never have.  But I think I speak for both races when I say that we're all sick of this obsession with creating a "Tiger" or "MJ" for every sport.  I've worked with quite a few black people for a couple years now, and it's really interesting to see a lot of the differences, but from what I keep gathering, everybody's sick of being treated with white gloves.  My supervisor keeps saying "I don't care what color you are, if you're nice, you're nice, if you're a jackass, you're a jackass."  I know that I'm on the side that has it easiest, and I know that I don't understand the day to day struggles that minorities have.  That's all I'm gonna say, cause you definitely have good points.
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