Quote from: TWOHAND834 on July 15, 2020, 02:27:52 PM

Quote from: milorafferty on July 15, 2020, 01:06:33 PM

If they really want to stop or at least slow this down, everyone needs to be wearing N95 level masks.

The current bullshit isn't doing anything except preventing one person from spitting on others.

While I agree with you.  Nobody should have to tell us we have to wear a mask.  It really boils down to two simple things.  1.  Dont stand near someone you dont know.  2.  Dont touch your face when out in public.  I live in the new hotbed for this thing (Florida) and rarely wear one.  When I am out in public, as soon as I am done doing what it is I am doing, I rub sanitizer on my hands.  The only time I wear a mask is when I go to a gas station or grocery store and I am forced to wear one.  There are people however that should wear one simply because they may have an underlying condition that puts them at a higher risk.  But for the majority of us that do not have any health issues, two simple precautions can keep us from being a statistic.  It amazes me how many people cant do that.

To counter your argument, I submit the story of Typhoid Mary. If you're not familiar with her, she was the one who was asymtomatic with typhoid fever, yet was able to infect roughly 50something other people with it, 3 of whom died of it. It took them a while to find her, including quarantining her twice, even though she showed absolutely zero signs of having typhoid fever herself. So while she showed no signs of it, she had it, was a carrier of it, and was able to transmit that virus to other people, who died from it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Mallon

The point here: just because you think you are healthy and able bodied does not mean you are immune or not susceptible to COVID, nor should that preclude you from wearing a mask. If anything, wearing a mask help you to protect others from catching it from someone who could be an asymtomatic carrier of it.

Hell, if we called for vigilance after 9/11 for people who may or may not be "terrorists", why should we not have the same vigilance for something that is a threat to our lives? Besides, we're bowlers and as such, we bowl on different oil patterns; we're used to fighting an invisible enemy. What should make our reaction to COVID any different?

BL.

Quote from: bowling_rebel on July 15, 2020, 09:54:59 PM

Deaths rates have totally fallen. They are just testing more people.

The tests are garbage as the virus has never been isolated or proven to cause anything. Lots of dead people in NYC from panic medicine and putting them on ventilators for no reason.

I can't believe this fear mongering is still going on. People prefer to see civilization collapse than face a common cold virus.

You might be the dumbest person I’ve ever encountered on this site and that’s a mighty accomplishment.

This is a good argument you bring up.  But that brings up my point on the social distancing.  Even if you are asymptomatic.  If you keep your distance, you wont spread it.  It really is that simple.  The numbers started to spike again at the same time people just had to go out and protest.  So to your point, and a valid one.  You get someone who feels perfectly fine and they are a carrier and they go out and protest with thousands of other people, they just probably infected most of those people.  Now you have a snowball affect and you see the numbers where they are. 

My apologies guys.  I know this got off on a tangent.  Regarding the original post.  Good decision by the USBC.  While I know it was a very difficult one to make.  It was the right one.  Optimistic that everything will calm down and get back to some normalcy for 2021.

Quote from: bradl on July 16, 2020, 12:30:32 PM

Quote from: TWOHAND834 on July 16, 2020, 08:47:33 AM

This is a good argument you bring up.  But that brings up my point on the social distancing.  Even if you are asymptomatic.  If you keep your distance, you wont spread it.  It really is that simple.  The numbers started to spike again at the same time people just had to go out and protest.  So to your point, and a valid one.  You get someone who feels perfectly fine and they are a carrier and they go out and protest with thousands of other people, they just probably infected most of those people.  Now you have a snowball affect and you see the numbers where they are. 

My apologies guys.  I know this got off on a tangent.  Regarding the original post.  Good decision by the USBC.  While I know it was a very difficult one to make.  It was the right one.  Optimistic that everything will calm down and get back to some normalcy for 2021.

The problem though, is that it doesn't have to be a one-to-many exposure for something like this to happen. With that, I also ask you this: Which would you rather have: $1 million upfront right now, or $.01 per day, doubled every day for 30 days?

The million in one day is what you'd get if one person was asymptomatic and hanging around people at a protest. the penny a day doubled every day for 30 days? By day 27, you're at roughly 670,000. By day 30, you're at 5.4 million. Swap those pennies for people who caught COVID from one asymptomatic person being in near contact - social distancing or otherwise - with 2 PEOPLE. Those 2 infect another 2, those 2 infect another 2, so on and so forth.

The point here is that the amount of people that you are nearby has nothing to do with it; if you're around the least number of people, you can not control who they are around, nor can they control what other people they are around. The laws of compounding and exponential growth beat you on that, and people either naively or ignorantly overlook or are unaware of that.

BL.

What about taking the $1,000,000 up front and having it double everyday for 30 days?  LOL!!!

Deaths rates have totally fallen. They are just testing more people.

The tests are garbage as the virus has never been isolated or proven to cause anything. Lots of dead people in NYC from panic medicine and putting them on ventilators for no reason.

I can't believe this fear mongering is still going on. People prefer to see civilization collapse than face a common cold virus.

This reminds me of an old saying.  Reading something on the internet that offends you and feeling the need to respond is like seeing dog poop on the sidewalk and choosing to step in it.  You are being trolled my friends.