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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: psycaz on February 15, 2018, 07:19:41 PM
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https://www.bowl.com/News/NewsDetails.aspx?id=23622330705
I’m shocked. Sucks for the other teams who could have won that championship. From reading, folks are saying it’ll remain vacant and not awarded to McKendree.
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Wow that is quite a shock and also it took a year if not that to determine what was going on.
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Wow that is quite a shock and also it took a year if not that to determine what was going on.
Geez what did they do. Try to claim PDW enrolled in art history in their college? Still yeah that sucks.
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Stupid rule. Anyone know who got their PBA card while on the team?
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Geez what did they do. Try to claim PDW enrolled in art history in their college? Still yeah that sucks.
Or maybe they caught one of them using simple green/water to clean their stuff? ;D
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Geez what did they do. Try to claim PDW enrolled in art history in their college? Still yeah that sucks.
Or maybe they caught one of them using simple green/water to clean their stuff? ;D
:P . Wait until they see all the balls they are using with a .05+ diff.
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Everything I heard, which doesn't make sense to me. But everything I'm reading says it's Del Warren the coach. Because we was a brief PBA member, he is ineligible to coach... apparently lol.
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Everything I heard, which doesn't make sense to me. But everything I'm reading says it's Del Warren the coach. Because we was a brief PBA member, he is ineligible to coach... apparently lol.
Can't be - the O'Keefe's coach collegiate.
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There's no way it is because Del is the coach. There are plenty of men and women that were professionals with titles that are coaches. Del must have been suspended because it is ultimately the responsibility of the coach to verify eligibility of the bowlers.
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Riggs reports Giorgio Clinaz bowled in was a PBA member for a couple years in 2012 and bowled 20 Tour and 5 Regional tournaments.
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https://www.bowl.com/News/NewsDetails.aspx?id=23622330705
I’m shocked. Sucks for the other teams who could have won that championship. From reading, folks are saying it’ll remain vacant and not awarded to McKendree.
As much as it sucks, that is as it should be. That ineligibility wouldn't have meant that the title goes to the next in line, because the entire tournament was compromised. Every match in that tournament Webber bowled in would have to be vacated, meaning a whole different set of matchups that would lead to that title. Sucks for those that were legit on Webber's team, but sucks not only for McKendree, but every other team that had a shot at winning that championship.
BL.
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https://www.bowl.com/News/NewsDetails.aspx?id=23622330705
I’m shocked. Sucks for the other teams who could have won that championship. From reading, folks are saying it’ll remain vacant and not awarded to McKendree.
As much as it sucks, that is as it should be. That ineligibility wouldn't have meant that the title goes to the next in line, because the entire tournament was compromised. Every match in that tournament Webber bowled in would have to be vacated, meaning a whole different set of matchups that would lead to that title. Sucks for those that were legit on Webber's team, but sucks not only for McKendree, but every other team that had a shot at winning that championship.
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Normally thinks its total corruption BS that the only thing organizations like the NCAA care about is making sure the athlete doesn't get a cut of the pie. Collegiate bowling isn't generating billions in revenue though so little different situation.
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NCAA has nothing to do with men's college bowling. It is a club sport. Only some of the women programs are NCAA.
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https://www.bowl.com/News/NewsDetails.aspx?id=23622330705
I’m shocked. Sucks for the other teams who could have won that championship. From reading, folks are saying it’ll remain vacant and not awarded to McKendree.
As much as it sucks, that is as it should be. That ineligibility wouldn't have meant that the title goes to the next in line, because the entire tournament was compromised. Every match in that tournament Webber bowled in would have to be vacated, meaning a whole different set of matchups that would lead to that title. Sucks for those that were legit on Webber's team, but sucks not only for McKendree, but every other team that had a shot at winning that championship.
BL.
Normally thinks its total corruption BS that the only thing organizations like the NCAA care about is making sure the athlete doesn't get a cut of the pie. Collegiate bowling isn't generating billions in revenue though so little different situation.
The NCAA doesn't cover MEN's Collegiate bowling. That is only covered by the USBC. Women's bowling is the NCAA-sanctioned sport. It's been that way for at least 25 years (ever since I bowled collegiates), and most assuredly longer.
BL.
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https://www.bowl.com/News/NewsDetails.aspx?id=23622330705
I’m shocked. Sucks for the other teams who could have won that championship. From reading, folks are saying it’ll remain vacant and not awarded to McKendree.
As much as it sucks, that is as it should be. That ineligibility wouldn't have meant that the title goes to the next in line, because the entire tournament was compromised. Every match in that tournament Webber bowled in would have to be vacated, meaning a whole different set of matchups that would lead to that title. Sucks for those that were legit on Webber's team, but sucks not only for McKendree, but every other team that had a shot at winning that championship.
BL.
Normally thinks its total corruption BS that the only thing organizations like the NCAA care about is making sure the athlete doesn't get a cut of the pie. Collegiate bowling isn't generating billions in revenue though so little different situation.
The NCAA doesn't cover MEN's Collegiate bowling. That is only covered by the USBC. Women's bowling is the NCAA-sanctioned sport. It's been that way for at least 25 years (ever since I bowled collegiates), and most assuredly longer.
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Pretty much since title 9 without which neither would be NCAA sports.
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From what I understand, one of the team either held a card or won enough money in a pro tournament to be considered a pro. Del Warren is being penalized, because as head coach, he didn't do he due diligence and check out the member before he let him bowl. It mostly sucks for the teammates who worked their hearts out to win, and now having their hard earned rewards stripped away.
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Do you only count as a pro by winning so much money at a pba event vs any other events? Because there are plenty of college bowlers making money at Nationals and other local usbc and non usbc events.
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Only way to be considered a pro is to actually purchase membership. You can bowl as an amateur and win and wont count as a title b/c your an amateur. You can i believe bowl in 3 tourneys as an amateur, cash in 2, or win 1 before they require you to become a full-fledged member before your next tourney. So apparently he must have exceeded those parameters and didn't tell anyone.
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Current PBA rule. This guy was a member from late 2012-2015 so I'm not sure what the PBA rule was then.
13.2.4 Amateur Cash Rule. Beginning in 2015, an amateur may cash in a maximum of two (2) PBA events per season (aggregate PBA Tour, PBA50 Tour, PBA Regional).
a. If an amateur has cashed in two (2) PBA events in a season and wishes to participate in another event, he or she must declare prior to the tournament that if he or she cashes he or she will not be allowed to accept the prize money unless he or she becomes a member.
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I think the issue here is that Webber Intl is an NAIA(?) school that offers men scholarship money for bowling in the program. It seems like this player was in violation. I coached collegiate bowling and the coach/appointed advisor has to submit eligibility paperwork once at the beginning of the semester to the school's registrar for eligibility clearance, once at second semester, and once at sectionals if your team is invited. So that's 3 checks per year that was swept under the rug.
They knew what was going on. Plus, has there ever been a bowler in the history of life who has bowled regionals or tour events that didn't let EVERYONE they ever met know that "they've bowled some stops on tour"?