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https://www.bowl.com/News/NewsDetails.aspx?id=23622330705

I’m shocked. Sucks for the other teams who could have won that championship. From reading, folks are saying it’ll remain vacant and not awarded to McKendree.
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Re: USBC COLLEGIATE to vacate Weber International MEN’S 2017 ITC TITLE
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2018, 08:01:44 PM »
Wow that is quite a shock and also it took a year if not that to determine what was going on.
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Re: USBC COLLEGIATE to vacate Weber International MEN’S 2017 ITC TITLE
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2018, 10:23:11 AM »
Wow that is quite a shock and also it took a year if not that to determine what was going on.

Geez what did they do.  Try to claim PDW enrolled in art history in their college?  Still yeah that sucks.
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Re: USBC COLLEGIATE to vacate Webber International MEN’S 2017 ITC TITLE
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2018, 10:32:58 AM »
Stupid rule. Anyone know who got their PBA card while on the team?
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Re: USBC COLLEGIATE to vacate Webber International MEN’S 2017 ITC TITLE
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2018, 11:38:39 AM »
Geez what did they do.  Try to claim PDW enrolled in art history in their college?  Still yeah that sucks.

 Or maybe they caught one of them using simple green/water to clean their stuff?   ;D
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Re: USBC COLLEGIATE to vacate Webber International MEN’S 2017 ITC TITLE
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2018, 12:05:25 PM »
Geez what did they do.  Try to claim PDW enrolled in art history in their college?  Still yeah that sucks.

 Or maybe they caught one of them using simple green/water to clean their stuff?   ;D

 :P .  Wait until they see all the balls they are using with a .05+ diff.
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Re: USBC COLLEGIATE to vacate Webber International MEN’S 2017 ITC TITLE
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2018, 02:08:05 PM »
Everything I heard, which doesn't make sense to me. But everything I'm reading says it's Del Warren the coach. Because we was a brief PBA member, he is ineligible to coach... apparently lol.
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Re: USBC COLLEGIATE to vacate Webber International MEN’S 2017 ITC TITLE
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2018, 02:11:37 PM »
Everything I heard, which doesn't make sense to me. But everything I'm reading says it's Del Warren the coach. Because we was a brief PBA member, he is ineligible to coach... apparently lol.

Can't be - the O'Keefe's coach collegiate.
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Re: USBC COLLEGIATE to vacate Webber International MEN’S 2017 ITC TITLE
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2018, 02:28:19 PM »
There's no way it is because Del is the coach.  There are plenty of men and women that were  professionals with titles that are coaches.  Del must have been suspended because it is ultimately the responsibility of the coach to verify eligibility of the bowlers.


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Re: USBC COLLEGIATE to vacate Webber International MEN’S 2017 ITC TITLE
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2018, 02:53:19 PM »
Riggs reports Giorgio Clinaz bowled in was a PBA member for a couple years in 2012 and bowled 20 Tour and 5 Regional tournaments.

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Re: USBC COLLEGIATE to vacate Webber International MEN’S 2017 ITC TITLE
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2018, 02:57:47 PM »
https://www.bowl.com/News/NewsDetails.aspx?id=23622330705

I’m shocked. Sucks for the other teams who could have won that championship. From reading, folks are saying it’ll remain vacant and not awarded to McKendree.

As much as it sucks, that is as it should be. That ineligibility wouldn't have meant that the title goes to the next in line, because the entire tournament was compromised. Every match in that tournament Webber bowled in would have to be vacated, meaning a whole different set of matchups that would lead to that title. Sucks for those that were legit on Webber's team, but sucks not only for McKendree, but every other team that had a shot at winning that championship.

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Re: USBC COLLEGIATE to vacate Webber International MEN’S 2017 ITC TITLE
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2018, 03:04:05 PM »
https://www.bowl.com/News/NewsDetails.aspx?id=23622330705

I’m shocked. Sucks for the other teams who could have won that championship. From reading, folks are saying it’ll remain vacant and not awarded to McKendree.

As much as it sucks, that is as it should be. That ineligibility wouldn't have meant that the title goes to the next in line, because the entire tournament was compromised. Every match in that tournament Webber bowled in would have to be vacated, meaning a whole different set of matchups that would lead to that title. Sucks for those that were legit on Webber's team, but sucks not only for McKendree, but every other team that had a shot at winning that championship.

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Re: USBC COLLEGIATE to vacate Webber International MEN’S 2017 ITC TITLE
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2018, 04:37:55 PM »
NCAA has nothing to do with men's college bowling.  It is a club sport.  Only some of the women programs are NCAA.

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Re: USBC COLLEGIATE to vacate Webber International MEN’S 2017 ITC TITLE
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2018, 08:35:54 PM »
https://www.bowl.com/News/NewsDetails.aspx?id=23622330705

I’m shocked. Sucks for the other teams who could have won that championship. From reading, folks are saying it’ll remain vacant and not awarded to McKendree.

As much as it sucks, that is as it should be. That ineligibility wouldn't have meant that the title goes to the next in line, because the entire tournament was compromised. Every match in that tournament Webber bowled in would have to be vacated, meaning a whole different set of matchups that would lead to that title. Sucks for those that were legit on Webber's team, but sucks not only for McKendree, but every other team that had a shot at winning that championship.

BL.

Normally thinks its total corruption BS that the only thing organizations like the NCAA care about is making sure the athlete doesn't get a cut of the pie.  Collegiate bowling isn't generating billions in revenue though so little different situation.

The NCAA doesn't cover MEN's Collegiate bowling. That is only covered by the USBC. Women's bowling is the NCAA-sanctioned sport. It's been that way for at least 25 years (ever since I bowled collegiates), and most assuredly longer.

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Re: USBC COLLEGIATE to vacate Webber International MEN’S 2017 ITC TITLE
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2018, 09:01:21 PM »
https://www.bowl.com/News/NewsDetails.aspx?id=23622330705

I’m shocked. Sucks for the other teams who could have won that championship. From reading, folks are saying it’ll remain vacant and not awarded to McKendree.

As much as it sucks, that is as it should be. That ineligibility wouldn't have meant that the title goes to the next in line, because the entire tournament was compromised. Every match in that tournament Webber bowled in would have to be vacated, meaning a whole different set of matchups that would lead to that title. Sucks for those that were legit on Webber's team, but sucks not only for McKendree, but every other team that had a shot at winning that championship.

BL.

Normally thinks its total corruption BS that the only thing organizations like the NCAA care about is making sure the athlete doesn't get a cut of the pie.  Collegiate bowling isn't generating billions in revenue though so little different situation.

The NCAA doesn't cover MEN's Collegiate bowling. That is only covered by the USBC. Women's bowling is the NCAA-sanctioned sport. It's been that way for at least 25 years (ever since I bowled collegiates), and most assuredly longer.

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Pretty much since title 9 without which neither would be NCAA sports.
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