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USBC has done it. No weight holes 8/1/2020
« on: April 24, 2018, 12:53:33 PM »
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Re: USBC has done it. No weight holes 8/1/2020
« Reply #196 on: April 28, 2018, 10:46:52 AM »
WOW!  Before I started screaming and bitching. I listened and watched the video and read the article.  On Jan 1, 2020 the maximum static weight was raised from 1 oz to 3 oz for finger/thumb and side.  Most balls drilled are less than 2oz before the weight hole is added to bring them into the 1oz range.  You can use the weight hole balls from Jan 1, to Jul 31 with no changes.  On Aug 1, you cannot have any weight holes.  That gives you from Jan 1 to Jul 31 (6 months) to have your weight holes plugged.  Two fingered bowlers often use the "thumb" hole as a weight hole and that is why drillers came up with triangle and wii grips.  The bowler using only finger grips, must have an "X" etched into the ball and the ball must be held so the hand covers the "X".  That way, they can't use it upside down.
The Dry towel was explained to mean no liquid.  Towels and Shammy's are all legal.  Just no liquids during play.  As for the crap that ends up on the ball, that won't wipe off, the league or tournament official may authorize some kind of cleaner to get it off.  Much like the rule that covers a ball damaged during play.  One good question came up from the youth.  Many of the youth use house balls without using any finger holes.  It is expected that house balls will be exempt from the "weight hole" rule.
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Re: USBC has done it. No weight holes 8/1/2020
« Reply #197 on: April 28, 2018, 11:26:59 AM »
Quote from: dmonroe814 on April 28, 2018, 10:46:52 AM
Many of the youth use house balls without using any finger holes.  It is expected that house balls will be exempt from the "weight hole" rule.

I heard somewhere that the new rules will not apply to any ball weighing 10 pounds or less.  So, kids need not worry.
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Re: USBC has done it. No weight holes 8/1/2020
« Reply #198 on: April 28, 2018, 10:07:42 PM »
Quote from: dmonroe814 on April 28, 2018, 10:46:52 AM
WOW!  Before I started screaming and bitching. I listened and watched the video and read the article.  On Jan 1, 2020 the maximum static weight was raised from 1 oz to 3 oz for finger/thumb and side.  Most balls drilled are less than 2oz before the weight hole is added to bring them into the 1oz range.  You can use the weight hole balls from Jan 1, to Jul 31 with no changes.  On Aug 1, you cannot have any weight holes.  That gives you from Jan 1 to Jul 31 (6 months) to have your weight holes plugged.  Two fingered bowlers often use the "thumb" hole as a weight hole and that is why drillers came up with triangle and wii grips.  The bowler using only finger grips, must have an "X" etched into the ball and the ball must be held so the hand covers the "X".  That way, they can't use it upside down.
The Dry towel was explained to mean no liquid.  Towels and Shammy's are all legal.  Just no liquids during play.  As for the crap that ends up on the ball, that won't wipe off, the league or tournament official may authorize some kind of cleaner to get it off.  Much like the rule that covers a ball damaged during play.  One good question came up from the youth.  Many of the youth use house balls without using any finger holes.  It is expected that house balls will be exempt from the "weight hole" rule.

 See how easy that was?
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Re: USBC has done it. No weight holes 8/1/2020
« Reply #199 on: April 28, 2018, 11:16:53 PM »
Quote from: Juggernaut on April 28, 2018, 10:07:42 PM
Quote from: dmonroe814 on April 28, 2018, 10:46:52 AM
WOW!  Before I started screaming and bitching. I listened and watched the video and read the article.  On Jan 1, 2020 the maximum static weight was raised from 1 oz to 3 oz for finger/thumb and side.  Most balls drilled are less than 2oz before the weight hole is added to bring them into the 1oz range.  You can use the weight hole balls from Jan 1, to Jul 31 with no changes.  On Aug 1, you cannot have any weight holes.  That gives you from Jan 1 to Jul 31 (6 months) to have your weight holes plugged.  Two fingered bowlers often use the "thumb" hole as a weight hole and that is why drillers came up with triangle and wii grips.  The bowler using only finger grips, must have an "X" etched into the ball and the ball must be held so the hand covers the "X".  That way, they can't use it upside down.
The Dry towel was explained to mean no liquid.  Towels and Shammy's are all legal.  Just no liquids during play.  As for the crap that ends up on the ball, that won't wipe off, the league or tournament official may authorize some kind of cleaner to get it off.  Much like the rule that covers a ball damaged during play.  One good question came up from the youth.  Many of the youth use house balls without using any finger holes.  It is expected that house balls will be exempt from the "weight hole" rule.

 See how easy that was?

Really only complaint only than hassle of dragging fair number of balls to get plugged is not being able to plug a significant number of them until 2020 unless plug more than motion hole.  As long as the lead time for plugging doesn't get stupid in 2020 no biggie. Still beats banning a bunch of high diff balls for sure.  It can always get worse so good to look on the bright side.
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Re: USBC has done it. No weight holes 8/1/2020
« Reply #200 on: April 29, 2018, 12:58:27 AM »
Hack,

 You and I are far too much alike, in many ways, to argue about much. I tend to agree with a lot you say, just don’t feel quite as strongly about it as I used to. Guess I’m just getting old, lol.

 I’m a little aggravated too, but I love to bowl, so I’ll keep bowling. If I want to just open bowl, I’ll use whatever the heck I want to, weight hole be damned.

 And you. If you decide to go ahead and bowl a league, you’ll plug something up, or buy something new and drill it. You love buying and trying new stuff, and I already have a couple NIB stashed in the closet, so it really wouldn’t be THAT big of a deal. You’ll probably already have legal stuff by 2020 anyway. That’s what I would do.

 As long as U.S.B.C. doesn’t come up with some ridiculous rule (like having to bowl blindfolded backwards or something), or start charging a crazy amount (like $500 a year), I’ll follow the rules and keep bowling, because I enjoy bowling league with my friends.

 They make rules, that’s what they do. And, I really couldn’t care less, as long as those rules don’t “get in the way”, so to speak.

 I don’t like a lot of the speed limits on the roads, but I still drive a car.
 I don’t like my work hours, but I usually get there on time.

 And I ain’t crazy about many of the things the U.S.B.C. comes up with, but I still bowl leagues.

 Maybe it won’t get too stupid. Got my fingers crossed.
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Re: USBC has done it. No weight holes 8/1/2020
« Reply #201 on: April 29, 2018, 02:17:15 AM »
Yep question is if I bother any time soon to take the next step up from unsanctioned doubles league currently in.  Will probably end up plugging at least some of my pieces regardless.  As you say change is inevitable so no point getting wound up.
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Re: USBC has done it. No weight holes 8/1/2020
« Reply #202 on: April 29, 2018, 06:58:31 AM »
HackJandy,   It would be nice to have the window start Jan 1, 2019, for those of us who have a lot of balls to plug.  I will send an email to USBC and see if we can get the window opened up a little.
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Re: USBC has done it. No weight holes 8/1/2020
« Reply #203 on: April 29, 2018, 08:46:54 AM »
I am buying stock in the ball plug companies. ;D
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Re: USBC has done it. No weight holes 8/1/2020
« Reply #204 on: April 29, 2018, 09:02:35 AM »
Quote from: BowlingforSoup on April 29, 2018, 08:46:54 AM
I am buying stock in the ball plug companies. ;D

 There will be some, but not as much as you would think probably.

 A. Most entry level bowlers won’t have any extra holes, most likely.
  (They don’t need them because they don’t know anything about them)

 B. Medium level bowlers will be doing the majority of the plugging because

 C. Higher level bowlers buy new stuff often enough to avoid most plugging needed.


 I’ve got 21 bowling balls in my bedroom floor. Only three have weightholes, and I only use two of them anymore.

 2 out of 21, that’s all, and that’s only if I plug them instead of buying newer stuff in the next two years. Odds are, I’ll get new stuff. Probably would have anyway.
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Re: USBC has done it. No weight holes 8/1/2020
« Reply #205 on: April 29, 2018, 05:43:51 PM »
Hey juggernaut,  careful storing those ball on the floor, carpet. They have a better chance of cracking unboxed on the floor. Speaking from experience. Hank boomershine from storm/rg says store them in original boxes in plastic bags.
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Re: USBC has done it. No weight holes 8/1/2020
« Reply #206 on: April 29, 2018, 05:55:09 PM »
People know good and well they're not going to go plugging the ten relics they have in the basement. By the time you consider how much to plug 4 balls you'll justify the price of that shiny new Utah ball with 10 year old R2S on it for the same price and be happier than a pig in slop.

There is a silver lining in this as ball companies will be forced to put more money in R&D and marketing to push the new equipment in the year that the restrictions take place. They want that new equipment money. They get 0% of plug and redrill money.
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Re: USBC has done it. No weight holes 8/1/2020
« Reply #207 on: April 29, 2018, 09:47:00 PM »
Quote from: Geigs on April 29, 2018, 05:43:51 PM
Hey juggernaut,  careful storing those ball on the floor, carpet. They have a better chance of cracking unboxed on the floor. Speaking from experience. Hank boomershine from storm/rg says store them in original boxes in plastic bags.

We've been saying on this website since before 2008 to store bowling balls in plastic bags.

http://www.ballreviews.com/visionary/cracking-balls-t203472.0.html;msg948803#msg948803
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Re: USBC has done it. No weight holes 8/1/2020
« Reply #208 on: April 30, 2018, 08:59:29 AM »
Regarding the plugging of bowling balls with weight holes, are we talking a full plug & re-drill or just plug the weight hole and the ball should be legal according to the new spec guidelines?  This is also assuming a normal, nothing exotic, layout being used.
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Re: USBC has done it. No weight holes 8/1/2020
« Reply #209 on: April 30, 2018, 09:35:06 AM »
Quote from: mrwizerd on April 30, 2018, 08:59:29 AM
Regarding the plugging of bowling balls with weight holes, are we talking a full plug & re-drill or just plug the weight hole and the ball should be legal according to the new spec guidelines?  This is also assuming a normal, nothing exotic, layout being used.

That's the dilemma of this whole scenario! USBC is not offering "Joe Bowler" rebates on getting all of this retro-fitted plug work done! We're just stuck with having to pay extra money in order to keep rolling balls which we consider "keepers".

Some balls I own with weight holes have them to get the ball back in tolerances that make it legal, while some balls I have, have the X-hole there simply to shape my reaction on the lanes. This USBC change will force bowlers to plug their holes and then go back and have the balls re-checked for legality. The trick in all of this is, there is even verbiage in the new rules banning the drilling of finger holes deeper....so how stupid is that?
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Re: USBC has done it. No weight holes 8/1/2020
« Reply #210 on: April 30, 2018, 09:45:15 AM »
Quote from: mrwizerd on April 30, 2018, 08:59:29 AM
Regarding the plugging of bowling balls with weight holes, are we talking a full plug & re-drill or just plug the weight hole and the ball should be legal according to the new spec guidelines?  This is also assuming a normal, nothing exotic, layout being used.

Yes, Just plug the weight hole and you should be okay. Of course double check just to make sure.
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