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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: Gizmo823 on November 04, 2013, 10:30:35 AM
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Finally got mine a few days ago a full 2 1/2 months after it was submitted. Who else has theirs and who else is still waiting? Seems pretty ridiculous to me . .
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I understand it may sound ridiculous but there are few million sanctioned bowlers. I would say if it was after the new year then it would be ridiculous. Depending on when they were sent in this is pretty good.
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Mine came last week, two months later...
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mine came about a month after submitting
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10 weeks for mine. 33% of the season.
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Got mine well over a month ago. Submitted it online in August, so took maybe 4/5 weeks.
Seems reasonable enough.
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Still waiting.......
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Received my notice via email and it stated it would be 4-8 weeks coming via snail mail. Not sure why that is, but it's the same each time I re-apply. Seems as though each chapter should be able to get it (card) done quicker, but then what do I know. It's no big deal any which way I view it.
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Are you guys sure when it was submitted by the local association?
You shouldn't count from when you filled out the form. I filled mine out the first week of the season, September 3rd, but, according to the USBC web site, it wasn't submitted to the USBC until October 14th!
Of course, once it is submitted to the USBC, you can just go the USBC web site,
http://membership.bowl.com/USBCsearch/SearchMembers.jsp (http://membership.bowl.com/USBCsearch/SearchMembers.jsp),
enter your name and state and print it there. I've done that many times, since I don't get my card from them until December or January. Not a big deal.
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The day you fill out the card and give it to your league secretary is not the day it gets submitted to the USBC. Your league secretary then gathers all the other people that submitted cards that night, and forwards them over to your local association, and they are the ones who submit it to the USBC. Ours were handed to our local association the last week of August, and they submitted them to the USBC on 9/14. Meaning the association had them for about a week and a half before mailing them to the USBC. The USBC sent them to the card vendor 4 days later, and then the vendor Mailed them out on 10/4. So from the night of league they were filled out, until the day I received it, was about 6-7 weeks.
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I'm on the board for our local association, and we get them sent in as quickly as possible. The only reason I make a point is that several years ago, we used to routinely get cards 2-3 weeks after the beginning of league.
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My card was submitted 9/8.
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I'm on the board for our local association, and we get them sent in as quickly as possible. The only reason I make a point is that several years ago, we used to routinely get cards 2-3 weeks after the beginning of league.
I've seen some get theirs as early as October, but I wouldn't ever count on it. Like I said, it's very easy to print your own,once they received them. Heck, I cut mine to size and laminated it to carry in my wallet. When the USBC made one came in the mail, I just threw my printed one out.
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Got mine a week ago.
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Still waiting.
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Mine came in on 10/24
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http://usbcongress.http.internapcdn.net/usbcongress/bowl/associations/pdfs/2014-2015/USBCPerformanceStandardsGuide.pdf
Note USBC LOCAL ASSOCIATION PERFORMANCE STANDARDS OVERVIEW....
MEMBERSHIP PROCESSING
GOAL: To have associations process Adult league and membership data in a timely
manner and to have associations work with leagues to collect the information as quick
as possible.
MEASUREMENT: The average number of days taken to process Adult leagues, from
league start date to the date of transmission to USBC Headquarters.
GRADING SYSTEM: From league start date, average days needed to transmit Adult
membership data to headquarters.
• A: 30 or fewer days
• B: 31 – 40 days
• C: 41 – 50 days
• D: 51 – 60 days
• F: More than 60 days
WHAT TO KNOW: USBC requires league secretaries to send membership information
to the association within 30 days of the start date of a league; associations must transmit
information to USBC Headquarters within 20 days of receipt.
It will be important for associations to work closely with league secretaries and center
processors to ensure it receives data in a timely manner.
USBC will measure the data during the 2013-2014 season and preliminary grades are
expected to be available July 1, 2014, for associations
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Our association's secretary is our leagues secretary/treasurer in the league I bowl in. I got mine on Saturday. Again, not surprised based on the amount of sanctioned bowlers.
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A decade ago they were getting them out inside 3 weeks for 6 million sanctioned bowlers, now it takes 7 weeks for 1.7 million bowlers? That's what doesn't add up for me. Yes 1.7 million cards to get out is a lot, but when it takes over twice the time it did for less than 1/3rd of the same amount of bowlers, that's what gets me. It's freaking November, what's the point? Might as well tell people to print them online.
Our association's secretary is our leagues secretary/treasurer in the league I bowl in. I got mine on Saturday. Again, not surprised based on the amount of sanctioned bowlers.
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I've known people who never received one they had to print one from computer.
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Don't forget USBC mails them 4 Class mail cheaper rate. The post office can hold them for up to 4 weeks before they process them out. That information came from USBC when I called last year. SO with the league having 30 days to send them to the assoc. Then the association has 20 days to process to USBC. Then USBC sends them out maybe 1 or 2 a month to the vendor. Vendor process 1 a month (is what I was told). Mail holding them for up to 28 days. That is 124-136 days before you could receive the card. That 1/2 of a winter season here. That is way to long. Remember do not always blame your local assoc for this.
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I got mine about 2 weeks ago. The USBC website would give the impression that the local association must of held onto the application for about a month. Then it took about a month to get it processed and the vendor to get the card to me.
But I'm so what. I had the temp card and could have printed off a card if needed.
While it seems like a long time to process it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things and isn't worth worrying about.
I would also guess since the USBC is losing money they have tried to cut the cost in the process. Probably have fewer employees dedicated to the process and maybe outsourced some of it. And in doing that they maybe wait a week or two to batch up applications to be sent to vendors.
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The biggest issue is trying to explain to people what they're paying dues for, and we're running out of reasons. "Well we don't even get our member cards until the season is half over." USBC is losing members over petty little crap like this. I realize people are getting more impatient and unreasonable, but it's more like a last straw type of deal. If they can't even get the smallest things right, what's the point?
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Can you honestly say that 95% of all sanctioned bowlers actually benefit from being sanctioned?
I know in my center there isn't a great benefit for them. We have maybe 50 people that bowl a tournament maybe once a year. A dozen people who bowl numerous tournaments including nationals. And maybe a dozen people who bowl "honor scores". So for the rest of our hundreds league bowlers, there really isn't a "value" in sanctioning other than USBC keeping average records (which to the majority isn't very important)
The biggest issue is trying to explain to people what they're paying dues for, and we're running out of reasons. "Well we don't even get our member cards until the season is half over." USBC is losing members over petty little crap like this. I realize people are getting more impatient and unreasonable, but it's more like a last straw type of deal. If they can't even get the smallest things right, what's the point?
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No I can't, lol that's part of why it's hard to keep coming up with reasons for people as to why they should sanction. Before long the only people that sanction will be the ones going to the Open Championships.
Can you honestly say that 95% of all sanctioned bowlers actually benefit from being sanctioned?
I know in my center there isn't a great benefit for them. We have maybe 50 people that bowl a tournament maybe once a year. A dozen people who bowl numerous tournaments including nationals. And maybe a dozen people who bowl "honor scores". So for the rest of our hundreds league bowlers, there really isn't a "value" in sanctioning other than USBC keeping average records (which to the majority isn't very important)
The biggest issue is trying to explain to people what they're paying dues for, and we're running out of reasons. "Well we don't even get our member cards until the season is half over." USBC is losing members over petty little crap like this. I realize people are getting more impatient and unreasonable, but it's more like a last straw type of deal. If they can't even get the smallest things right, what's the point?
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I received mine last week and I opened it up this week and discovered that the association I belong to is the one I subbed once in. Not sure what happened there because I filled out the card the first week of league and I sub in the other league two weeks later.
Edit: turns out my local association submitted the cards after the other association did. Not sure if that was the house or association that delayed the submission. I wonder if I will receive a second card because I see two sent to vendor dates and two mailed dates.