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JohnP

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USBC proposes fee increase
« on: January 13, 2016, 05:06:42 PM »
One of the proposals for USBC rules changes is to increase the national dues from $10 to $15.  The proposal specifically says there will be no change to the awards policy.  --  JohnP

http://usbcongress.http.internapcdn.net/usbcongress/bowl/convention/pdfs/2016/2016ProposedAmendments.pdf
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Re: USBC proposes fee increase
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2016, 05:37:25 PM »
I'll say it again...happy to consider an increase but they are just asking for more money without specifics about how much will be spent on these programs, how that translates into increased membership, and who is accountable if it fails. And please change marketing agencies because our current firm is completely incompetent.
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Re: USBC proposes fee increase
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2016, 05:49:09 PM »
oooops, my bad.
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Re: USBC proposes fee increase
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2016, 05:49:45 PM »
didnt see the stuff on the next page. :(
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Re: USBC proposes fee increase
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2016, 06:40:01 PM »
I would vote yes to the increase.
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Re: USBC proposes fee increase
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2016, 08:37:38 PM »
Why does it say Reason for proposal with information, then follows with Recommend adoption by USBC board of directors and gives information that contradicts the information in reasons for proposal?

I propose we up fees for helping the usbc and bring back awards like the 11 in a row. We hear what you suggest and would like to use it for the PWBA and other vested interest while leaving the local and state associations to cover awards and raise their fees separately to do so
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Re: USBC proposes fee increase
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2016, 09:06:54 PM »
I don't care about $5. It's worth $50 to have my scores publicly available. 
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Re: USBC proposes fee increase
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2016, 08:50:56 AM »
Every year they ask for an increase and we vote no......
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Re: USBC proposes fee increase
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2016, 09:12:12 AM »
They just need a clear reason to need it.  I would want a plan for the money.  $5 seems like a large jump.
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Re: USBC proposes fee increase
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2016, 10:02:27 AM »
Quote from: cory867 on January 14, 2016, 09:12:12 AM
They just need a clear reason to need it.  I would want a plan for the money.  $5 seems like a large jump.

The reason is because the price of things go up.
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Re: USBC proposes fee increase
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2016, 12:21:44 PM »
Let's keep throwing money at programs with no accountability...that seems to be working well so far. In the real world when you ask for money, it's accompanied by a plan of action and projections for return on investment/benefit to the organization. Think of it from a personal point of view, if someone wanted you to invest in their business with no plan and no accountability what would you say?
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Re: USBC proposes fee increase
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2016, 01:58:59 PM »
Quote from: morpheus on January 14, 2016, 12:21:44 PM
Let's keep throwing money at programs with no accountability...that seems to be working well so far. In the real world when you ask for money, it's accompanied by a plan of action and projections for return on investment/benefit to the organization. Think of it from a personal point of view, if someone wanted you to invest in their business with no plan and no accountability what would you say?

In general, I agree.  But mainly for new ventures.  For existing ventures an increase in funds can be needed to maintain what is currently being done.  USBC, like many organizations, have assets.  Their assets are losing value while trying to stay at a particular level.  For this reason, I would approve of a dues increase to try and stay solvent at the current level of support.  If participation decreases more (as expected) then we those who stay will be able to expect the same support as before.
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Re: USBC proposes fee increase
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2016, 03:28:55 PM »
How about the USBC goes and F's themselves? They want more for doing less. When it comes down to it what is their purpose anyway? Rules they cant or wont enforce. For the league bowler they really do NOTHING. All leagues can keep track of avg's on league secy and make up their own league rules. This is total BS. Its now wonder people are dropping out like flys.
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Re: USBC proposes fee increase
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2016, 03:34:55 PM »
You guys are aware that it's $5.00, PER YEAR, right?

What a bunch of idiots looking for an excuse to bitch. Pay the damn money or quit bowling.
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Re: USBC proposes fee increase
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2016, 03:45:29 PM »
You are the idiot. Just because they want an increase doesn't mean we bend over and give it to them. What is in return for the increase? It goes in someone's pocket? Next year we won't be a sanctioned league. They do next to nothing as is.
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