I have a question about rule 111e(.  It states:

8. Unopposed pre or post bowled scores will be eligible for USBC Awards except High Score Awards as designated in Rules 51a, 51b, 51c, 51d, 52b and 52d.

If a bowler bowls an honor score not eligible for an award during an unopposed pre/postbowl (300, 800, etc.), does the secretary still submit this to the USBC to be included in the bowler's achievement records, even though it isn't eligible for an award?

This year there is an box to check on the application, if the score was bowled in pre or post bowl situation.  So with that said, I'd say that the score should be submitted, but the actual "hardware" will not be granted.  

Erin

Based on what I just found out from the National USBC office: NO

I had the same understanding of the rule as you do. I knew an honor score wouldn't merit an award, but thought the game itself would still be included in your lifetime stats. Knowing this, I told my team about it before we pre-bowled unopposed on Jan. 31, 2009 for our Wednesday night league. I jokingly told my team, "Don't shoot an honor score, please!" And what did I do first game? 300! LOL

So with my understanding of the rule, I submitted the award form anyway. The secretary then sent it on up the line. I received a letter from USBC congratulating me and that the sanction was in progress. I've waited over a month and a half and no word.

I called my local USBC office and his still showed in progress. So I called the National office in Arlington and spoke to a nice lady. She said the uncontested pre/post bowl honor scores would not merit an award AND wouldn't be included in your stats! I was pissed!

So the only way it would've counted is if the opposing team pre/post-bowled with us head to head, and a league officer was present. I even talked to my secretary about doing a pre-bowl, and he was like "Oh yeah, go talk to the other team first, but I don't have to be present because of automatic scoring." But obviously he wasn't aware of the honor score thing. Otherwise he would've had the decency to tell me. Had I known that, I would've given the pre-bowl more thought!

I know I can't predict what I was going to do that day. But my understanding of the rule was not correct. Whether I read wrong or something is my own fault. So even though the league has honored my score, the USBC will not. Oh well, at least I didn't shoot my first 800 that day! And I already bowled one perfect game 2 1/2 yrs prior during league, so at least my first ever was sanctioned. But my hopes of having my 2nd sanctioned was all for not.

So FU-K YOU Robert Mushtare! You douche! You're the rotten apple that spoiled it for the rest of us.

Edited on 3/13/2009 2:37 PM